But in today's society, being evidently white is cause for ridicule. Eschewing the now entrenched cultural memes of black and brown America attracts mocking from those that consider white traits like a respectful demeanor and social grace as reflective of "uncoolness". Add in a dash of America's new favorite pasttime - irony and you get the embedded video below.
Background: Brian Scalabrine is a backup power forward originally from 95% white Enumclaw, Washington who has played in the NBA for ten years. He has red hair and he's rather oafish. In other words, he's really "white." What to look for - the sarcastic cheering from the crowd and his fellow players at 0:07 , 0:37-0:42, and 0:53 and the mocking condescension offered by the clearly black announcer, from 0:45 to 0:57. Oh and his nickname - "White Mamba", likely a play off superstar Kobe Bryant's nickname "Black Mamba."
I know some may not see this as race-based and admittedly one has to appeal to commonsense interpretation for that argument. But to those who can see, it's rather obvious. I'll sum the video up as follows, "Haha, look at whitey!"
But despite the above video, occurring at a sporting event that white America increasingly dislikes, the same class of individuals seemingly gravitates towards Mr. Football Jesus - Tim Tebow. In other words, whites passively accept the entrenched notion of multicultural vibrancy, but will reject it wholeheartedly if given the proper outlet, i.e. a venerable white icon in sports or popular culture. Tebow mania continues another week with Tebow and the Broncos meeting Tom Brady's New England Patriots this Saturday night (can't wait). The NFL is now the ultimate sports behemoth, perhaps as a result of helmets and pads covering up black superstars and whites still dominating the marquee positions of QB and head coach. Yet, we've never really seen something like the current Tebow phenomenon.
Much is said about his unabashedly professed Christianity, but plenty of players display a similar faith. While no one will actually admit it, the unparalleled support Tebow receives derives from him epitomizing conservative white Christian America, especially being a good-hearted guy who competes successfully in a black dominated sport. But how can we make such a definitive claim if no one will actually admit it? Well, let's take a look at some statements from Tebow detractors (H/T: SBPDL). Here's a sports radio host:
“‘Toucher,’ as he is known to his listeners on 98.5 The Sports Hub, had this observation on Tebow’s draft-night gathering. ‘It looked like some kind of Nazi rally … so lily-white is what I’m trying to say. Yeah, Stepford Wives.’ Come to think of it, I didn’t see much diversity at the Tebow house. Maybe all that missionary stuff is just a cover, and his family has really spent years setting up a skinhead movement in the Philippines.And here's former NBA player and ESPN analyst Jalen Rose, who we last saw discussing racial issues when he criticized Grant Hill for coming from a middle-class two-family home, making a rather evident connection:
“The popularity of Tim Tebow is bigger than the game,” said analyst Jalen Rose on the NFL Network. “If he ran for president, he’d get Sarah Palin’s vote. He’s that popular.”A black gossip site ran a recent article entitled: Tim Tebow is the Republican's Last Great White Hope. The laughably named blog "We are Respectable Negroes" writes of Tebow fandom:
his popularity is a function of Christian Dominionist born again shtick and the "novelty" of a white quarterback with a "black" style of play. In many ways, Tebow is the Eminem of the NFL.Despite the negative frame, they are correct as I made the same argument back in October.
So if we can conclude that Tebow hate derives from his typifying whiteness, with even a writer at HuffPo noticing a parallel phenomenon concerning Duke hate, then we can surely conclude that white America likes him because he represents them. And that they're hungry to root for someone who looks like them (well, minus the obesity) and shares their values.
[Disclaimer: I still don't think Tebow can keep this up. Despite the win last week, he is wildly inconsistent and I do think much of the football-based criticism of him is justified. Additionally, his in-your-face Christianity can get a little tiresome, but in the grand scheme of cultural icons and Tebow's person in general, that's a rather nitpicky criticism.]
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My first reaction to the video was, "Who the fvck cares what retarded sports-watcher morons think?"
But then I remembered: There are tens of millions of these idjits out there .....
GO USA!!!
I've struggled with my thoughts on Tebow. I think he is overrated by one half but overly denigrated by the other, and the point of contention in the discussion is not the same.
So just stepping back and looking at Tebow without any outside influence shaping my opinion, I have to say I like the guy. I don't share his religious views, but I think what we see - his 'corny' enthusiasm and excitation - is actually what he's all about. That is refreshing on some level.
My first reaction to the video was, "Who the fvck cares what retarded sports-watcher morons think?"
I think you're putting too tight a label here. They're sports fans, but they're also the general public. And that's 20,000 members of the general public all having a good ol time laughing at whitey.
but white womn lov Men of Color.
the wihte man's time is up, so racsts like you and tebow neef to shut up.
people of Color are comin.
It's a joke to claim Tebow has a "black" style of play.
There are literally thousands of white QBs across the country who PASS and RUN and have been before Vick ever came along.
Heck, I made it a point to flatten LBs and FSs when it was running time. Where are the QBs that can do that?
But despite the above video, occurring at a sporting event that white America increasingly dislikes, the same class of individuals seemingly gravitates towards Mr. Football Jesus - Tim Tebow. In other words, whites passively accept the entrenched notion of multicultural vibrancy, but will reject it wholeheartedly if given the proper outlet, i.e. a venerable white icon in sports or popular culture. Tebow mania continues another week with Tebow and the Broncos meeting Tom Brady's New England Patriots this Saturday night (can't wait). The NFL is now the ultimate sports behemoth, perhaps as a result of helmets and pads covering up black superstars and whites still dominating the marquee positions of QB and head coach. Yet, we've never really seen something like the current Tebow phenomenon.
C'mon One! You start with a false dichotomy (the NBA has disappointed white as well as black fans; it's sag in popularity is not due to race, at least overtly), and that sag certainly hasn't been directly 'answered' by Tebow-ism; Tebow has his own charms and magnetism; give HIM the credit, not the foolhardiness of NBA administrators......as for the NFL becoming the new all-American pasttime, because all that brutish black flesh is covered in pads and helmets? Yeah, Michael Jordan, the biggest athlete icon to date, and a dark-skinned black man (no cafe-au-lait compromise be-he!), was propped up by a liberal media, right?
I hear what you're saying, but you're pushing too hard. These conclusions feel forced. There's truth to your observations, but you're putting too much after the'therefore.'
"While no one will actually admit it, the unparalleled support Tebow receives derives from him epitomizing conservative white Christian America, especially being a good-hearted guy who competes successfully in a black dominated sport. But how can we make such a definitive claim if no one will actually admit it?"
I'll admit it!
I agree with Thordaddy. Teebow runs more like a fullback and many of his runs are designed run plays, especially the option runs. Black quarterbacks just look like they're ad-libbing (eg Vick who seems to always look to run first).
The success of the NFL can also be put down to the brevity of the season. A 16 game regular season compared to 38 games in the English Premier League (plus the myriad of cup compettition the soccer fags lap up) or the 26 round Australian National Rugby league Season (plus representative games), makes for an exciting competition were every game counts.
Football is overly religous to begin with. Witness the praying and Christ euphemisms before, during, and after any high school football game in Texas.
Watching the Steelers play is to notice the double standard. Big Ben kneels down and prays before games and Troy Polamalu gives the sign of the cross everytime he makes a play. Yet nobody complains about their "overt" Christianity.
I'm not religous so who cares, but niether am I some sort of aspergery atheististic booger faced sleeve wiper looking for signs of Christ in everything so I can squeal like a dirty school girl either.
Nobody would want to copy a black QB. Not one black QB made the playoffs and people are still hoping and praying for a black QB who can actually play. They will be hoping and praying for a long time.
The real story is that the three whitest teams in the NFL (Houston, Green Bay and New England)are still alive while most of the blackest teams (Tampa Bay, Pittsburgh, Chicago) are watching their superiors on TV.
A New England-Green Bay Super Bowl would be roughly half white with white running backs, receivers and kick returners stealing the show.
As for Tebow, he is good but not great. He is better than most black QBs but that really is like being the best hockey player in Hawaii.
It is his Christianity and the fact that all the media hates him that makes people like him. Plus he does have a knack for pulling games out at the end.
"A New England-Green Bay Super Bowl would be roughly half white with white running backs, receivers and kick returners stealing the show."
That would be interesting. Two all-white offenses marching up and down the field against all-black defenses would be tough to ignore.
C'mon One! You start with a false dichotomy (the NBA has disappointed white as well as black fans; it's sag in popularity is not due to race, at least overtly), and that sag certainly hasn't been directly 'answered' by Tebow-ism; Tebow has his own charms and magnetism; give HIM the credit, not the foolhardiness of NBA administrators......as for the NFL becoming the new all-American pasttime, because all that brutish black flesh is covered in pads and helmets? Yeah, Michael Jordan, the biggest athlete icon to date, and a dark-skinned black man (no cafe-au-lait compromise be-he!), was propped up by a liberal media, right?
Compare Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Kareem, Barkley, Pippen, and others of that era to those of the post-Iverson, tattoos, hip-hop era. Or for a picture comparison, who do you think white America will be more apt to like:
http://www.sojones.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/58_magic_johnson.jpg
or
http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/si_online/covers/images/2001/0423_mid.jpg
The black stars of the Jordan era were largely easy to like, not really much of liberal media in that (though they probably liked it).
You start with a false dichotomy (the NBA has disappointed white as well as black fans; it's sag in popularity is not due to race, at least overtly), and that sag certainly hasn't been directly 'answered' by Tebow-ism
I never said this was direct. But they're parallel - whites rejecting hip-hop NBA for a more palatable NFL. And I don't know where you get this idea blacks are disappointed in the NBA; the level of play in the NBA and the number of superstars hasn't been this good since the Jordan era.
I've read dozens of articles and blog posts about Tebow from all across the ideological spectrum and here are a few conclusions:
1. Excepting a few extreme feminists, women like Tim Tebow. They are either attracted to him (ex: Sally Quinn, wife of WaPo editor) or hold him up as an example to their men (black women especially do the latter).
2. Hatred of him does not come close to approaching that of the Duggars or Sarah Palin because of point number 1.
3. His biggest haters are secular Jewish men for existential reasons.
4. Black men are a mixed bag, but the ones that hate are extremely few in number. Mostly, if they don't like him, its due to jealousy, not existential fear.
The religious thing is mostly because of what Tebow does off the field rather than on the field. As noted here, other players (most notably Orthodox Christian Troy Polumalu who uses the Orthodox sign of the cross very often when on the field) also display religion when playing. Tebow, though, runs in anti-abortion ads and so on -- that's what gets the left's gourd about his religiosity. For Tebow, his Christianity is less a personal expression than an expression of evangelism, and he's been pretty explicit about this when asked about it. It's that aspect that rankles. Our society doesn't mind if you're religious, it just doesn't want you trying to spread your religious views around (too much). Therefore a bit of personal religious expression is fine, as long as you aren't trying to convince people to follow your religion.
Whites love Tebow because he's a good-hearted, upstanding, and respectable person, both on the field and off. He appeals to our better natures and is someone everyone can easily root for because he's so different from the rest. He's certainly not the best player on the field--he's the underdog and Americans love an underdog to root for--but the battle doesn't always go to the strong nor the race to the swift. Whether he wins or not this weekend, he epitomizes America as it was in its glory days: young, vibrant, and good.
I watch a lot ESPN talking heads, and I've noticed that most black commentators absolutely hate Tim Tebow. I think blacks feel threatened by Tebow. He sort of has the same skill set as Michael Vick, though Vick is far more talented. But Teblow plays infinitely more intelligently than Vick did at the same age. And so far, he's much more successful than Vick was.
Blacks don't want Tebow to succeed, because although nobody comes right out and says it, Tebow sort of reminds people of the old argument against black quarterbacks.
But black racists can take heart. Cam Newton, who is black, seems just as smart as Tebow, and even more talented than Vick, though not quite as fast.
I hate nerd bashing, and yea I do see it as a race issue too. Partly because they use the word to denigrate intelligent White men and nerds/ betas and country boys are the #1 default "White folks suck" set up.
I'm into strongman and power-lifting. I work as a high risk security contractor. I'm not exactly a nerd, but damn it all I appreciate all they've done for the world and me. From this here interwebs, to the sport science nerds who's hard work has helped me get stronger and the nerds who design the body armor, riffle and gadgets at work.
"I watch a lot ESPN talking heads, and I've noticed that most black commentators absolutely hate Tim Tebow."
I agree a lot with your comment, but as I was trying to get at in my post, I see those black men as disliking (and liking) him and being jealous versus the kind of hatred that causes men to get personal and with sarcastic, hateful invective. For those men you mentioned, they are jealous for the reasons you gave, but they aren't saying what Rabbi Hammerman said.
In fact, I see many black men trying to embrace Tim Tebow by seeing him less as a white man and more as Christian; looking for commonality rather than differences. Whoever is the guy on that show with Skip Bayless said that he was a Christian and if you embrace Tebow you embrace Christianity since that is what he is all about. The other black Christian guy agreed!
Steve Sailer wrote years ago that Christianity is about the only thing that can bring blacks and whites together, but the elite won't tolerate that solution.
I really don't think you can legitimately call football a black dominated sport. Football is unquestionably lead by QB's and coaches. As well most of e.g. the Patriots lead pass receivers are white. Offensive linemen matter a lot and are mostly white. Running backs a black, yes, as are most pass rushers.
Since I'm the person who posted the Brian Scalabrine video, I have to comment. Whoever is writing this blog definitely has a clouded point of view. Scalabrine is a fan favorite on the team...just as he was in Boston when he played. The guy never plays, and when he does, its in garbage time. He symbolizes the victory cigar, and because of this, they want to see him score. It has nothing to do with him being white. Kyle Korver and Omer Asik come into games and don't get this reaction, nor does any other white player in the league. Honestly, your trying to prove something that is meaningless...but thanks for the extra views.
I don't know jack about sports...
Here's a link to a professor who's arguing much the same thing:
http://www.linguistics.ucsb.edu/faculty/bucholtz/articles/MB_JLA2001.pdf
On the subject of nerds and hyperwhiteness:
http://www.linguistics.ucsb.edu/faculty/bucholtz/articles/MB_JLA2001.pdf
This professor argues that nerds are 'hyperwhite', ie hypercorrect. (This is probably true.) The substantial Asian component, both cultural and ethnic, of nerd culture is ignored (hello, anime?). As Sailer says, for the media, race is black and white.
BTW, maybe this is a coasts-heartland thing, but I had the impression much of the stigma associated with nerds had declined in recent years. You've got hipsters pretending to be nerds and girls claiming they're nerds on online dating sites. So I don't think Weird Al is saying white people are bad so much as staking out his position on the other end of the cultural continuum.
"Blacks don't want Tebow to succeed, because although nobody comes right out and says it, Tebow sort of reminds people of the old argument against black quarterbacks."
Total nonsense. But tell me anyway? What was that 'old argument?" That QB is a cerebral position and that blacks can't cut it there, etc., blah-blah.
And just how might Tebow be considered a 'cerebral' quarterback?
Tebow won't last because he plays like a running back and, in the NFL, running backs get the crap kicked out of them.
Just writing this gave me an epiphany: the progression of rules protecting quarterbacks over the years is primarily about keeping the white NFL audience. Can you imagine what the NFL audience would look like if Payton Manning had only lasted three years before succumbing to injury?
Leftist, urban SWPLs find Tebow's Christianity unnerving. This alone is reason for me to want him to win the Superbowl. I love seeing my enemies made uncomfortable by the wild success of types they despise. (The New Yorker bloggers are always taking prissy little bird-shits on Tebow.)
Unfortunately, Denver has little chance of winning it all. Unless Jeebus really IS on Tebow's side...
"Leftist, urban SWPLs find Tebow's Christianity unnerving. This alone is reason for me to want him to win the Superbowl.....The New Yorker bloggers are always taking prissy little bird-shits on Tebow."
Yes, that alone is annoying enough to want to see Tebow succeed; I know I, despite not having any feelings for AFC teams period, pulling for Tebow during games the last few months.
But now that the playoffs have arrived, I'm afraid I have deeply conflicting loyalties.
Luckily, though perhaps sadly in one sense, I won't have to face any deep reckoning, as Denver will most likely be long-gone from the playoffs by the time the Superbowl arrives. But if not and some miracle occurred, it would be cruel what GB would do to Denver in a Superbowl this time (since '98).
Jesus is far too forgiving to allow that scenario to occur.
A good example of anti-white "humor" is this bit by Louis CK. Despite how thinly veiled his agenda is, people will tell you it's "just humor" and nothing more. If he made a similiar performance about blacks deserving to get assraped for being thieves and murderers, suddenly it wouldn't be humorous anymore. But that just proves how full of shit he is; if whites are so well off and blacks so oppressed, shouldn't it be the other way around?
I've noticed that most black commentators absolutely hate Tim Tebow.
I actually don't agree with this. Tebow hate is primarily from larger media, not really sports media. Though I think blacks in general do not like him b/c he's getting so much attention for playing a running (black) style. Not his black teammates however, they seem to really like him:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L1D8AqOK60c/TI7qeYIuTeI/AAAAAAAAABI/JiKFmWNXaDw/s1600/Tebow+crying.jpg
Total nonsense. But tell me anyway? What was that 'old argument?" That QB is a cerebral position and that blacks can't cut it there, etc., blah-blah.
Why does nikcrit even comment on HBD sites so often if he offers statements like these, ones that would come out of a liberal creationist PC ideologue?
He sort of has the same skill set as Michael Vick, though Vick is far more talented. But Teblow plays infinitely more intelligently than Vick did at the same age. And so far, he's much more successful than Vick was.
Come on, that last statement is ridiculous. I think Vick has only played well for one season of his entire career (last year), but come on. Vick won a playoff game at Lambeua against Brett Farve, made the playoffs multiple years with the Falcons and Eagles, and advanced multiple times in the playoffs including a trip to the NFC championship game. He's the all-time QB rushing leader. And last year he was runner-up for MVP.
Vick may be the most talented QB in the league and perhaps the greatest athlete ever, but he refuses to put it to use. He did for awhile last year, but he's regressed back this year.
Scalabrine is a fan favorite on the team...just as he was in Boston when he played.
Why would a guy who never ever plays be a fan favorite? And this has nothing to do with race?? - I guess it's just a coincidence that his name is "White Mamba" and that he's extremely "white"?
Kyle Korver and Omer Asik come into games and don't get this reaction
Because they're not goofy and extremely "white." The reason Scalabrine is a "fan favorite" is because people want to laugh at him. Why else would they even know who he is? Can you name all the other 12th men in basketball? Same thing with Shawn Bradley in the 90's.
Black backup players do not get laughed at, but this goofy white guy does. And you really think they're NOT laughing at Scalabrine? Really??! If you honestly think their support of him is NOT ironic, then I can't help you there. Open your eyes buddy.
Oh BTW:
I posted this comment, but it still didn't dissuade the troll from commenting:
http://onestdv.blogspot.com/2012/01/making-fun-of-whitey-and-tim-tebow.html?showComment=1326277518759#c8106437154707224039
nickrit is a ncie guy and very inteligent.
you gays constantly lambast him
and then you popel wonder why People of Color dilike you
While this post is about Tebow, you intrepid journalists really should investigate how Scalabrine has lasted so long in the NBA. The guy flat out can't play - contributes nothing unless he's left wide open. He's got half the ability of Brian Cardinal, for example. For a long time the overhyped white stiff seemed to be a Stanford specialty: Rich Kelly, Adam Keefe, Mark Madsen. It really is interesting how these guys can be so dominating in major college conferences full of black players, then be unable to get a shot off or snag a contested rebound in the NBA. In my opinion black people, who I generally can't stand, are actually being quite generous in not protesting the reservation of this roster spot for an obvious white token. He looks to me like he'd make a good misdemeanor prosecutor.
affirmative action is ok with whites as long as it benefits them helene edwards
During his college career, I loathed Tebow.
That was before I could see.
Now, I want nothing more than his continued success.
"Why does nikcrit even comment on HBD sites so often if he offers statements like these, ones that would come out of a liberal creationist PC ideologue?"
We've discussed the 'black quarterback' issue before here; while there's some brains required for the task, it's hardly a high 'g' position; I mean, the last time we discussed it, I think I ventured that Brett Favre conceivably had a IQ at or around 100 (pure guess) and he was one of the greatest ever; I really think it's more about instinct, physical prowess and other intangibles more than pure 'intelligence.'
Most of my comment was directed at the earlier commenter's claim that 'most black players and ESPN broadcasters hate Tebow and feel threatened by his running-QB style," or words to that effect (see above).
First of all, I don't think he's widely hated by blacks in the sport; second, they're certainly not 'threatened' by Tebow's stle: his style is typical of hundreds of college quarterbacks!
As the Tebow-rap goes: "Run-Pass-Option: I think that's my gaaaame!" (Lol!)
ONE, with all due respect how about you stop trolling your own blog. Or stop the troll if it isn't you. You know his ip so stop it.
I'm not calling for ending disagreement or debate at all. But this troll character with the clownish misspelling and the sex/race taunting offers nothing and you know it.
It diminishes your site.
Tebow's in-your-face Christianity IS annoying and does understandably draw ridicule (not that I'm justifying boorish ridicule, necessarily). With that said, what gets me is that he's ridiculed because he's a white Christian. Were it a negro's beliefs or some Muslims belief's, the liberal media would be telling us that such ridicule is "offensive." The media's standards all depend on who's in question. It's whitey, so fuck 'em. The masses can eat 'em alive.
With respect to whites being "nerdy" and rigid by comparison to other races-- it's obvious that this is a shield erected by white liberals and minorities as a means of justifying non-whites' own scholastic inferiority. So we're no longer thinking about how low IQ these darkies are, but instead thinking about how "proper" and "unhip" and "out of touch" white men are, supposedly. Having a sense of honor (and not being nigga "down") is "white." Working hard and feeling a sense of duty (instead of "I is be out fo me") is also "white" and boring and not vibrant.
All of this mocking whitey says more about ourselves as a greater culture than the white target in question. Only a lot of scoundrels would find such positive characteristics that white men typically possess over other men to be laughable.
They're killing the goose that lays the golden egg, that's for sure.
I never said that Tebow plays like a black quarterback. I said he has the same skill set as Michael Vick, by which I meant that he runs a lot better than he throws. I also said that Vick is much more talented, which is kind of obvious.
Also, I never said that I believe that NO blacks are smart enough to play quarterback in the NFL, which would be plain silly. What I tried to say, and maybe didn't say very well, was that black commentators and black fans are overly sensitive to the fact that, until the 1970's, it was the common belief among (white) NFL executives. And that is one reason, I think, that a lot of black commentators don't like Tebow--hate is probably way too strong a word--and pull against him.
I also believe that pulling against a player because of his race is racist.
As for Michael Vick being a great quarterback, remember that the Falcons had a losing record the year before Vick went to prison, and his head coach, who got fired, privately called Vick a 'coach killer'. I admit Vick has played better in Philly, but he's nowhere close to being a Rogers, Brady or Brees. But I admit, he can still run fast.
By the way, can someone explain to me again why the top-ten rated NFL quarterbacks this year are all white, while the best cornerbacks are black? Racism? Just wondering.
On the topic of the white basketball stiff, many moons ago I used to occasionally tune in to the crazy, super-Communist radio station in NYC, Pacifica radio, WBAI (home of possibly the most disgusting Lefty witch on earth, Amy Goodman). I mean, these are the type of people who go to the mat for Mumia. They are THAT bat-shit.
Anyway, it used to be a common argument over there that the reason the 11th and 12th man on the basketball team is usually white is because of.... tah dah! .... white racism. You see, whitey gotta see SOME white people on the team, or he won't watch the game. So somehow, a big stiff at the end of the bench who never plays gets put there to keep whitey satisfied, and meanwhile there are 100 brothers who are better ballers that don't get a job because THE MAN is keeping them out of work.
No really, they were serious about this. Meanwhile, at that time every white boy in America was wearing a Michael Jordan shirt, but according to them the only reason white Amerikkka tuned into the NBA was because some big paleface on the bench merely existed. Now you know the REAL reason Brian Scalabrine is on the team. No need to thank me for this stunning insight into white male hegemony and people-of-color genocide. (That's how they talk.)
Really, if you've never heard Pacifica Radio, look for a local affiliate and tune in for an hour some day on a long car ride. You will really understand just how demented these people are. They figure no one not on their team is listening so they just drop all the pretense and facades. And these are Obama's people top to bottom.
As the Tebow-rap goes: "Run-Pass-Option: I think that's my gaaaame!" (Lol!)
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Love that video! And everything about Skip Bayless in it can be explained by one fact: he's a ginger!
BTW, Tebow is very average IQ-wise going by his wonderlic score. About a 102 or 104, but don't remember. Makes him all the more remarkable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMK9FKMG3Nc
The "Unleash him" video
ONE, with all due respect how about you stop trolling your own blog. Or stop the troll if it isn't you. You know his ip so stop it.
Wait, you think the troll is me?!? The parody comment I posted in this thread was the first time I did that. Believe me, this guy annoys me as well.
But Blogger does not give me access to IP addresses (only Wordpress does), so I can't block him. I do try to delete all his comments though, but people often read or respond to them before i get a chance.
Tebow hype is entirely media driven. If the media downplayed his Christian displays, no one would even be much aware of it. How about all of the other players that are average and therefore barely covered? The media hoped he would fail and perhaps expected him to fail and therefore he would be a spectacle they could both create and destroy. They will love it when Tebow declines as all athletes do. It will be savored by the white haters. The thing is, he may be a late bloomer, unlike his black football peers. His peek may well be ahead of him. I don't know that, but it is possible. It will suck to be a sneering anti white left sports reporter then.
We'll just have to wait and see.
What was that 'old argument?" That QB is a cerebral position and that blacks can't cut it there, etc., blah-blah.
The blacks that can cut it there aren't playing football.
Kind of like smart women no longer go into teaching.
Back when women were discriminated against, or anyway not catered to, plenty of educated women were teachers not doctors, lawyers, engineers.
Now smart black guys can get ahead elsewhere, far ahead.
@Buck Swamp,
Yes, my apologies; I did take yoru comment somewhat out of context before setting off on my own Tebow riff.
I should know, cuz I myself am often taken out of context re. certain remarks; I mean, I dare venture that the pro QB position isn't that cerebral and doesn't really necessitate too much raw intelligence and from that the blog's host likens me to a "liberal creationist p.c. idealogue"!
But then things really got worse: The resident troll posts a comment defending me!
Anyhow, as much as i've been charmed in recent weeks by the easy grace and energy of Tebow and his heroics, I'm quite sure it's all going to come to end in Foxboro this weekend.
I didn't even notice all the Scalabrine videos ironically praising him or showing ironic cheering at other games.
Go to the embedded video on YouTube and look down the right hand side.
The thing about Tebow is that he trains to get better. Throwing is a skill he's practicing, which is more than McNabb, or Vick, or that guy from Alabama do. People like Tebow because he's the underdog, the one everyone said could not make it. And did. He does not have much natural talent, he's not super-naturally fast, strong, but he trains harder than the rest.
And he's a model of masculine behavior without bragging, thugging it up, or gay-emo-weepery.
As for "laughing at Whitey" that is Conan O'Brien's schtick that he's milked for decades. It plays because most White guys are thought of (wrong) as harmless milquetoast cubicle dwellers.
Throwing is a skill he's practicing, which is more than McNabb, or Vick, or that guy from Alabama do.
This is unfair. McNabb legitimately developed into a very good pocket passer, having probably one of the top ten best QB seasons of the 2000's back in 2004. Vick might actually have the best arm in the entire league, though he doesn't have a quickfire release.
The problem with Vick, at least until last year, is that he refused to actually learn the position.
But if you want a black QBs who waste talent - that would be Vince Young and Jamarcus Russell.
Though let's be fair here - there are so many white QB busts as well. Blacks may not be as good at QB as a whole, but top black QB prospects don't flame out anymore than top white QB prospects.
If you look at a list of the top 35 passers by total passing yards in the NFL this year, only 4 are black. (#10-Cam Newton, #13-Josh Freeman, #17-Michael Vick, #20-Tavaris Jackson). By the way, Tebow is #32.
4 out of 35 seems really strange, considering how dominant blacks are at every other position,except offensive line.
Like Nikcrit, I think that Tebow's seaon will end this weekend. While I wish Tebow the best, I am very skeptical that he will be a long-range success as an NFL quarterback. I hope he proves me wrong.
And he's a model of masculine behavior without bragging, thugging it up, or gay-emo-weepery.
I usually don't agree with much of what Whiskey says, but I think this explains much of Tebow's appeal. There's a pent-up demand for white Christian male role models. I mean, where else in pop culture can you find this? Hollywood is a cesspool. Last year I was disgusted by Charlie Sheen running around bragging about his coke and porn star addiction. I'm no prude, but come on. . .
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Re: QB IQ - Wikipedia says the average Wonderlic for NFL QB's is 24, which apparently translates to an IQ of 108. My uneducated guess is that the position relies more on spatial ability. Not sure if this tested on the wonderlic or how much spatial cognition factors into "g".
"Black backup players do not get laughed at, but this goofy white guy does"
Nate Robinson played this exact role for the OKC Thunder last year. He's quite black.
Scalabrine's presence on the court typically indicates that the team he's on has opened up a large lead and all that's left is "junk time". The announcers, having no drama left to describe turn instead to comedy, Scalabrine being the comic relief.
Back when he played for the New Jersey Nets, Scalabrine's nickname was Veal.
If you look at a list of the top 35 passers by total passing yards in the NFL this year, only 4 are black. (#10-Cam Newton, #13-Josh Freeman, #17-Michael Vick, #20-Tavaris Jackson). By the way, Tebow is #32.
Man, it gets even worse when you look at interceptions. This year NFL quarterbacks gave up an average of 2.9 interceptions per 100 pass attempts. Only one of the 5 black quarterbacks that had significant playing time this year was below league average, and that was Donovan McNabb, who was cut before the year ended. Tavaris Jackson ranked #20 out of 34 qualifiers; Michael Vick was #23; Cam Newton was #24; and Josh Freeman was #29. Tebow, at 2.2, was ranked #9.
Another thing. None of the four teams that played the majority of their games with black quarterbacks had winning records although Vick was 7-6 and Jackson was 7-7. The combined record of black quarterbacks in the NFL this year was 27-42, a percentage of .391.
Except for rookie Cam Newton, 2011 was a really bad year for black quarterbacks. What gives?
One,
I think you're being overly sensitive here. It just sounded like cheering to me. It looked like some of the fans were white. I doubt they were making fun of him. I've had black women be condescending to me and sometimes even make jokes at my expense. It doesn't really bother me much, unless they are outright mean.
"It really is interesting how these guys can be so dominating in major college conferences full of black players, then be unable to get a shot off or snag a contested rebound in the NBA."
Funny how all-white teams from Europe and South America routinely defeat all-black or mostly-black U.S. teams in international competition.
Might black dominance in the NBA (roughly 75%) be artificial?
One,
I think you're being overly sensitive here. It just sounded like cheering to me. It looked like some of the fans were white.
You don't know what irony is then. The game is over; there's nothing to cheer about. And notice they don't cheer when other players get the ball. Oafish white guy = ironic cheering.
Funny how all-white teams from Europe and South America routinely defeat all-black or mostly-black U.S. teams in international competition.
Might black dominance in the NBA (roughly 75%) be artificial?
I covered this awhile back:
http://onestdv.blogspot.com/2009/06/european-players-in-nba-finals.html
In sum, the black players are far more talented, but the white players are far better playing as a team and on fundamental stuff like free-throwing shooting. And the US has mostly gained back their dominance in international bball, primarily because they've decided to field an actual team (who train together) than just a collection of high flying all-stars.
Yeah, Michael Jordan, the biggest athlete icon to date, and a dark-skinned black man (no cafe-au-lait compromise be-he!), was propped up by a liberal media, right?
I hear what you're saying, but you're pushing too hard. These conclusions feel forced. There's truth to your observations, but you're putting too much after the'therefore.'
Yeah I know, right? What the hell does the media have to do with deciding who is the world's biggest "athlete icon"? Pfft. And even if they did have something to do with the decision, it's not like the media's leftoid or anything. *Snicker*
Our society doesn't mind if you're religious, it just doesn't want you trying to spread your religious views around (too much).
Jewish value alert!
This professor argues that nerds are 'hyperwhite', ie hypercorrect. (This is probably true.) The substantial Asian component, both cultural and ethnic, of nerd culture is ignored (hello, anime?). As Sailer says, for the media, race is black and white.
For the media, it's Whites down and everyone else up. Yellows are smarter than Whites. Blacks are more athletic. That's the end of the comparisons (thou shalt not point out that Whites are a lot more athletic than Yellows, and a lot smarter than Blacks).
We've discussed the 'black quarterback' issue before here; while there's some brains required for the task, it's hardly a high 'g' position; I mean, the last time we discussed it, I think I ventured that Brett Favre conceivably had a IQ at or around 100 (pure guess) and he was one of the greatest ever; I really think it's more about instinct, physical prowess and other intangibles more than pure 'intelligence.'
The "instinct" you're referring to is the ability to aim/throw/turn 3d objects in your head. No, it's not the same as "intelligence," yes, it's a mental ability.
With respect to whites being "nerdy" and rigid by comparison to other races-- it's obvious that this is a shield erected by white liberals and minorities as a means of justifying non-whites' own scholastic inferiority. So we're no longer thinking about how low IQ these darkies are, but instead thinking about how "proper" and "unhip" and "out of touch" white men are, supposedly. Having a sense of honor (and not being nigga "down") is "white." Working hard and feeling a sense of duty (instead of "I is be out fo me") is also "white" and boring and not vibrant.
It's inevitable that, since they lose on every meaningful tangible metric, Black superiority would be about intangibles. IOW, bullshit.
I also believe that pulling against a player because of his race is racist.
You're talking to a guy who thinks "RACISM!!!" is a moral imperative, and "anti-RACISM!!!" is a vice.
Svigor said: You're talking to a guy who thinks "RACISM!!!" is a moral imperative, and "anti-RACISM!!!" is a vice.
My own definition of "racism" is evaluating a person, not according to their actions and abilities, but rather, strictly according to their race.
Everybody, black or white, is a racist, at least some of the time. Most people just wont admit it.
That's because race isn't meaningless. Even if individual merits should emphasize how you judge a person, that hardly makes race some unimportant distinction.
And therein lies the fallacy that the left uses for their own ends with respect to race, gender, and sexuality; it comes from our sense of dualism (good and evil) and the need to apply that instinct in every respect.
That's because race isn't meaningless. Even if individual merits should emphasize how you judge a person, that hardly makes race some unimportant distinction.
Race exists and so do individuals. We needn't confuse the two. I can respect an individual while also understanding that he's an outlier. Or having feelings about a certain individual independent of my feelings about their native society.
I think we just agreed to agree, there.
His "style of play" is the style of the very white and very Mormon, and very much Super Bowl winner, Steve Young.
Damn. I knew when the Broncos drafted him that I'd find myself in this position of wanting him to succeed and wanting him to fail because he is a Donkey and I'm a Raider. It's hard out there being a Raider.
From Raider lover again--
How can you NOT pull for someone as genuine, as giving as this:
http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/7455943/believing-tim-tebow
"Whether he wins or not this weekend, he epitomizes America as it was in its glory days: young, vibrant, and good."
He doesn't mind when people laugh at him. That shows an incredible strength of character that most of us simply don't have.
We live in a pop culture that makes people who are innocent or good-hearted or giving into chumps, laughs at them.
He doesn't care.
The cheering for Scalabrine is kind of ironic...but it's still mostly in good fun. He knows he's not as good as the other players, but he's there in garbage time and no doubt pulling in a goods salary. He's probably not that sensitive.
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