Wednesday, December 28, 2011

Mall of America Brawl and What's Next?

[OK sorry, no Ron Paul post today. Hopefully for tomorrow.]

Punchline: blacks.



Oh those "young people", when will they ever learn
? In the race realist sphere, we post these types of stories almost daily. I guess we do so as a way of saying, "hey MSM, everyone sees the pattern so start paying attention." Yet I've largely grown tired of noting single examples of black pathology or even the widespread relative dysfunction of blacks and Hispanics. As I remarked during the recent The Atlantic race-intelligence controversy, "[a]rguing about...racial differences in intelligence is like arguing about whether gravity exists or if the sun rises in the east." Basically, my answer to these unending incidents of NAMs actin' a fool is - so?

At his aggregator site, Ferdinand has dubbed these stories "flash mob porn." Of course, porn offers nothing substantial; and I don't need convincing that blacks get into fights and ignore the most basic decorum. After all, I went to some heavily black public schools. I think almost everyone except the most deluded of liberals don't need convincing either. So is it time to move on? Should we just presume the masses have already rejected the leftist media's narrative regarding black dysfunction? Take a look at essentially every single YouTube comment - my favorite "Rise of the Planet of the Apes." Maybe the war has already been won or, in fact, it never existed in the first place. No one seems to actually think we're at war with Eurasia, so we waste our energies in dismantling a social narrative whose only adherents insulate themselves in the Ivory Tower and liberal urban enclaves.

Of course, to the "genteel racists" (how Phil Donahue once characterized Jared Taylor), the question of "what's next" is a sticky subject. Who wants to be the first "respectable racist" to countenance a return to Jim Crow or South Africa style apartheid? I can't imagine many HBDers will gladly go that route, but if blacks can not live within a civilized society (a sentiment repeated constantly on blogs on my blogroll), then what other options exist? To now illustrate the coward point myself, I will of course refrain from offering an answer to "what's next", but I won't ignore the fact that an answer needs to be given.

88 comments:

Erik said...

I propose we go back to slavery. Or as Moldbug so politely puts it, wards and patrons.

Anonymous said...

Yes, because they would be so docile and hardworking wouldn't they?

Dissident said...

Honestly, I'm of the opinion that whites are too brainwashed with their own form of self-loathing, media induced, self-hatred to do much of anything at this point. We've been disenfranchised and brainwashed into believing that losing our own country is a good-NO,even a benevolent idea. I really think that many whites are under a strong delusion, that somehow their very demise is justice for some perceived idea of entitlement ('white privilege') and past transgressions. This sick mind-op has been going on steadily for 30 years or more now.

It remains to be seen whether or not, whites will openly rebel against this form of mind tyranny or not. I remain skeptical as to our future prospects here in Amerika.

I'm constantly astounded at the level of conditioning and the sophistication of our enemies in this culture war. They're winning, but we are making significant inroads thanks to blogs such as this one.

IHTG said...

if blacks can not live within a civilized society (a sentiment repeated constantly on blogs on my blogroll), then what other option exists?

Well, one option is already being pursued to an extent: throwing them into prison by their millions.
(Imagine how bad it would be without that)

Camlost said...

It's been very difficult to get a clear understanding of what happened at the Mall of America. The videos don't seem to show mob looting by the black teens.

I'm guessing that someone put out false rumors that L'il Wayne and/or Drake would make an appearance, causing large groups of loitering blacks to appear. I think we all know what happens soon after that...

Zippy said...

The "what next" really is a good question, and I do think that there are moral objections to slavery and Jim Crow, even if we believe that blacks are on average less intelligent and less capable of impulse control than whites.

I don't claim to know the answer.

But I think that the start of the answer is to create a new social narrative in which we say that blacks are responsible for their own plight. That is, they got their freedom in the 50s and 60s, got 50 years of racial preferences -- and they blew it.

Then I think we need to reverse the culture in which whites idolize black culture. The reverse should be the case -- black culture should be scorned and ridiculed, and blacks should (again) be made to seek the approval of whites.

rightsaidfred said...

Honestly, I'm of the opinion that whites are too brainwashed with their own form of self-loathing, media induced, self-hatred to do much of anything at this point.

I'm not sure it is even media induced: Whites seem to naturally be self-critical to the point of self-destruction, which has good and bad effects.

One hope is that people do vote with their feet, and move to all-White areas when they can. Current demographics show that these will dwindle, but there is time, and things change.

Stuff Black People Don't Like said...
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derek sutton said...

I think one of two things will happen. The federal government ceases to be a viable entity in America due to hyper-inflation, lack of resources, whatever (go with me on this), and we go back to 50 individual countries like the pre Constitution days. I can see states like Mississippi and even the Midwest, revert to a form of Jim Crow, or even mass relocation of people. The other option, which is more likely in my opinion, is that eventually the US becomes less and less European, and more and more Hispanic. Eventually, the numbers will get to the point that Hispanics will no longer be willing to share and will eliminate the Europeans, either through confiscation of property and killings (like Rhodesia and eventually South Africa) or just straight up mob lynching, leading to European people self deporting back to Europe. This will take generations, of course, so we won’t see it in our lifetime, hopefully. Eventually, all areas will revert back to their original status: Whites in Europe, Hispanics in the western hemisphere, Asians in Asia, and blacks in Africa. As this blog and others have so amply demonstrated, we are incapable of living in mixed company.

IHTG said...

Eventually, the numbers will get to the point that Hispanics will no longer be willing to share and will eliminate the Europeans

Just like they did in Mexico!

Anonymous said...

I'll bet those pasty, polite Minnesotans were shitting their long johns when those fine young cannibals went ape right there in their beautiful megamall. A little bit of darkest Africa on the prairie. Must have been terrifying.

Of course, the most severe thing anybody said concerning the incident was, "Aw, jeez." And I'm sure they can't wait to import thousands more Somali 'refugees' into their state. That's just their way, dontcha know?

Anonymous said...

Slavery, genocide, land theft, coloonlaism, apartheid, rape-yeah those blacks sure are eevil.


People oc Color have kids white people do not soon america willbe a nation of color and it will be what it should be and not what it is.

David F. said...

@derek

Hispanic immigration is more of a threat to blacks than to whites. Hispanic immigrants are culturally peasant-European, and are not normally hostile to Western peoples and institutions. The elite in Mexico is mostly of Spanish and German ancestry.

I've lived most of my life in South Texas, and in general hispanics respect Western institutions but manage them poorly--see Latin America. They do not actively destroy them as blacks do. They also seem less concerned if whites take a leadership role in running them.

I do not wish to downplay the danger of hispanics being used as a weapon against white Americans, though.

The anti-white/western agendas of "La Raza," "Chicago Studies, etc. are driven by cultural marxists. I have never met a hispanic who had the slightest interest in such things unless they he or she were middle class, essentially white, and had adopted it in college.

dana said...

what has to be done about blacks:

1. end all affirmative action, welfare, food stamps, healthcare, housing vouchers, and government make work etc that benefits them

2. end all anti discrimination laws--these laws detroyed BLACK business in BLACK neighborhoods and pulled th emost capable blacks out of their neighborhoods leaving only the dreck behind


3. end all government assistance to single mothers who had never been married to the fathers, no child support, no WIC, nada

4. zero tolerance for even petty crime--this will effect white proles harshly as well, but they have already become so niggery they would benefit from it as well.

5. build more prisons for the throwaway generation of this change and have the PATIENCE to get to the other side

Justin said...

Any question of reinstituting even limited forms of voluntary segregation has to start by addressing the problem of federal power, because it is federal power that prevents local communities from doing what they want to do.

It starts with the enforcement of the Civil Rights Act and the various anti-discrimination-in-housing laws. It goes all the way up to the federal courts reviewing redistricting plans of the entire South and Arizona for "civil rights" compliance.

That is why the "racists" support Ron Paul: to change things, you have to eliminate federal powers.

Anonymous said...

"if blacks can not live within a civilized society (a sentiment repeated constantly on blogs on my blogroll), then what other option exists?"

All violent felons should lose their citizenship and be deported to a large devil's island. Taxpayers should not be obligated to subsidize prisons.

Anonymous said...

Blacks lash out society and white institutions because of racism and privilege that do not share in.

Thrasymachus said...

The key is to create environments that black people don't feel comfortable in, and stay away from on their own accord. Liquor and convenience stores play classical music to discourage black loiterers. The indoor mall provides a great place for idle black youth to congregate, talk, flirt, posture, and fight; I think this explains that newer malls are open-air, even in harsher climates.

Anonymous said...

"Blacks lash out society and white institutions because of racism and privilege that do not share in."

Blacks don't share in racism?

OneSTDV said...

Please ignore the troll.

Well, one option is already being pursued to an extent: throwing them into prison by their millions.

Good point. Maybe the powers that be are already giving us the answer to "what's next". And it's why leftists have dubbed mass incarceration of blacks the "new Jim Crow."

Prison industrial complex FTW?!

Sheila said...

We signed our own death warrant when we failed to repatriate them after Lincoln's war.

Personally, I want to see it all implode.

Even should that occur, the SWPLs and Jews will continue making excuses and blaming traditional White Americans.

Da FarmaY'All said...

Why ARE our "young people" so prone to this type of violence? I beleieve the naswer can be found in the angry political rhetoric of the Right. Rush Limbaugh,Glenn Beck,the Tea Party all engage in harsh rhetoric and....nomesayne?

tina said...

I am listening/watching as I type to Meghan Kelly on Fox as she interviews a doctor of osteopathic medicine as he "explains" what causes such behavior. The primary incident that is being used by Kelly to prompt the discussion is the report of the 27 year old Walmart shopper who blasted a 70 year old Walmart employee in the eye when she was asked to show her receipt as she left the stort; the secondary reference (with video footage) is the Mall of America
melee. There have also been quick references to previous bad behavior in the country, no specifics provided.

While Kelly's producers put up a picture of the perp in the Walmart episode and while they also show footage of the Nike shopper violence, not once, not once does anyone, not Kelly nor her guest, state the obvious, the race of those involved.

I guess the still pics and the videos tell the story in their eyes, but not once in the discussion of "why" this happens, does the good doctor, black himself, state the obvious or ask the question, "Why do we not see roving gangs of Asians or Whites or Hispanics behaving this way?"

tina said...

Oh, I meant to add, the good doctor did state that the perp in the Walmart incident "must have been angry about something else in her life," that he doubted she even noticed that the woman she was about to punch out was an elderly lady. She must have had, he guessed, a "hard life."

Well, now wasn't that an extraordinary analysis. Gawd.

Dave said...

"the question of "what's next" is a sticky subject."

Hey, you know what types of people propose actual solutions to their problems? People with actual problems.

You know who don't? People who just like to whine.

Anonymous said...

"But I think that the start of the answer is to create a new social narrative in which we say that blacks are responsible for their own plight. That is, they got their freedom in the 50s and 60s, got 50 years of racial preferences -- and they blew it."

WEll put. It's time all who don't behave like this say to those who do, "Enough is enough. Half a century of "help" has been turned into handouts that don't help at all. We're done with it. Develop some self-reliance. Deal with it, Baby."

Anonymous said...

"People oc Color have kids white people do not soon america willbe a nation of color and it will be what it should be and not what it is."

The problem is, fella, that "people of color" haven't shown themselves capable of building a society that is orderly, democratic, and advanced, now have they? Can you name such a nation?

Whatcha gonna do when whites and Asians aren't around to figure things out, builds things, cure disease, huh? You're going to keep having babies that die. (See subSaharan Africa)You're going to keep living day to day under corrupt governments that don't employ you. (See Mexico and any number of other countries.)

Anonymous said...

"Blacks lash out society and white institutions because of racism and privilege that do not share in."

They go to the same public schools others attend, they have the same texts, the same teachers, the same this and that, yet still they don't achieve. They waste education and the resources poured into their education.

It's easy for you to claim racism is the cause, but if you live in this country, you know better.

I suspect from your writing, however, that you're from elsewhere. If that's the case, bug off. You don't even know the advantages Americans have given to blacks. It hasn't helped; in fact, things are worse.

Most whites and Asians are fed up with "helping." They have learned what all parents know--kids take advantage of too much help.

PA said...

Dave is unfamiliar with the notion that "diagnosis" and "cure" are two separate things.

Others: stop dancing to the troll's tune. White people (and Asians) are not going away.

Anonymous said...

Asians do not like white peope.

They are on the side of other People of Color.

Dave said...

@PA

"Dave is unfamiliar with the notion that "diagnosis" and "cure" are two separate things. "

Not really. Once you've "diagnosed" a problem, as you guys like to pretend you have done, you have a few options for the next step. Option 1 is to embark on a plan to find a "cure."

Or, if you don't believe a cure can be found, or don't feel like trying to find it, then there's option 2: shut the fuck up about it and focus on the problems in your life you can actually solve.

Option 3 is to whine and whine and start a blog about whining and have a blogroll for to the other blogs for whining and whine in the comments section and when someone cool comes along to tell you to shut the fuck up you're annoying you whine at him about how he just DOESN'T UNDERSTAND HOW HARD IT IS with the "diagnoses" and "cures" and it's just so hard and sad, sad, sad we all need secret names or they'll come and get us, whine, fart, wake up tomorrow and do it all again.

n ikcrit said...

it's hard for me to believe that the troll here is anything but a alt-right-sympathetic strawman; or at least someone indifferent beyond being inspired to be disruptive.

i mean, isn't it more than a bit coincidental that every, single time a 'liberal, p.c.' troll arrives, he or she possesses a 3rd-grade command of syntax and grammar. How convenient is that?

tacticalchrstn said...

A return to any form of forced segregation should be resisted. Any honest student of HBD knows that there are thousands of blacks who are more intelligent and better behaved than the average white. We do not wish to punish the innocent. We do need to start admitting the truth about the guilty. Voluntary sterilization is a long term solution that we are not yet ready for. Right now we pay the disfunctional to reproduce. In the future perhaps we shall pay them not to have babies. William Shockley was right. The denial of HBD runs deep because all of the solutions are distasteful.

tony truth said...

> Should we just presume the masses
> have already rejected the leftist
> media's narrative regarding
> black dysfunction?
Yes, I've been noticing that too, more and more. The MSM redacts the key facts from an article, but when you look at the comments, the public at large aren't letting them off the hook any more. Check out for example this typical NYT editorial - http://nyti.ms/ugvAF4 - written last week by this or that Professional Black Man, in which he claims that "Black men’s difficulties arise partly for reasons beyond their control," and then cites "mass incarceration" as one of those reasons. But even in the NYT-curated "NYT Picks" selection of the responses, the commenters are having none of it: "How is incarceration a difficulty arising for a reason beyond an individual's control?" - plus dozens and dozens of similar comments. So I'm assuming that now even the SPWL hipsters are starting to cotton on.

PA said...

"the troll here is anything but a alt-right-sympathetic strawman"

I doubt it. But even if that were the case, agent-privocateurism is a poor tactic on the internet, because you're always taken at face-value. Repetition has the effect of meme-planting, which is stronger than whatever discrediting effect it has.

If you wanted to troll a feminist 'sphere with comments like "all men should be killed," you'd find an audience whose id's would be receptive to the message, eventually nudging your over-the-top comment toward respectability.

Besides, I've known a few black guys when I was younger who gloated in a similar manner.

Anonymous said...

"What's next?"

Whites arn't having enough babies so by default America will be left to people of color.

Grass huts become the new normal.

Anonymous said...

"Then I think we need to reverse the culture in which whites idolize black culture."

It's the media who "idolize black culture" and promote it.

Anonymous said...

"Slavery, genocide, land theft, coloonlaism, apartheid, rape-yeah those blacks sure are eevil."

Hey, you want to see slavery, genocide, etc. Visit the African continent in 2011-2012, you stupid idiot.

You think blacks only had things done unto them? You have shown you are uneducated. You know nothing of history, nothing. Get to a blog for idiots.

Anonymous said...

I like dana's points.

Anonymous said...

"Right now we pay the disfunctional to reproduce. In the future perhaps we shall pay them not to have babies."

Yu don't need to pay them not to have babies; you simply have to stop rewarding them with money when they have one.

People like this have been among us forever. The welfare state of the fifties is not the welfare state of the present. See the difference?

The minute a pol starts crying about the "poor innocent babies" we offer to have the state take them and put them up for adoption. Then do it.

Anonymous said...

it's hard for me to believe that the troll here is anything but a alt-right-sympathetic strawman; or at least someone indifferent beyond being inspired to be disruptive.

i mean, isn't it more than a bit coincidental that every, single time a 'liberal, p.c.' troll arrives, he or she possesses a 3rd-grade command of syntax and grammar. How convenient is that?



That's what I've always suspected. What gives it away is the inconsistency of the awful grammar and spelling. Sometimes his comments are barely decipherable and other times the grammar and spelling are correct (or at least substantially improved). Since our troll can write more or less correctly and coherently but usually chooses not to, he probably shouldn't be taken at face value.


If you wanted to troll a feminist 'sphere with comments like "all men should be killed," you'd find an audience whose id's would be receptive to the message, eventually nudging your over-the-top comment toward respectability.

That's not the only kind of trolling. There's also the kind where you present a perfect caricature of the blogger's opponents in order to egg the blogger and his regular readers on and reinforce their positions or nudge them even further along. I think that's what's going on here.

Anyway, I'm sure he's loving this little discussion analyzing him and his motives.

Anonymous said...

"...even if that were the case, agent-privocateurism is a poor tactic on the internet, because you're always taken at face-value. Repetition has the effect of meme-planting, which is stronger than whatever discrediting effect it has."

Do you actually see that happening here? I see the opposite. He just pisses people off even more and confirms their low opinions of "people of color". So maybe being an agent-provocateur isn't as ineffective as you think.

Anonymous said...

In re troll. I think you're underestimating his reading level. I'd put him around 8th grade. Now, isn't that roughly the average reading level of the typical black American male? I'm not kidding. He may be a troll. You never know. There's only one way to be sure a black guy is an actual black guy: a totally incongruous reference to his own sexual prowess-attractiveness with/to white women.

Anonymous said...

There's only one way to be sure a black guy is an actual black guy: a totally incongruous reference to his own sexual prowess-attractiveness with/to white women.

Oh hell, anyone can do that. Da whites wimminz all want muh dik. See?

Anonymous said...

Sorry, but "white women" and "dick" are the only words they DO spell correctly.

nikcrit said...

The last few comments compel me to say: The only way you know for sure that a comment was written by a genuine white guy is if he displays an inability to conceal his obsessional fear and distaste for miscegenation, and that all such urges toward it in society are fostered by the liberal media and the hyperactive minds of black males. (lol!)

nikcrit said...

"Sometimes his comments are barely decipherable and other times the grammar and spelling are correct (or at least substantially improved)."

Yeah, that specifically is the giveaway IMO. I mean, myself and a lot of commenters here make lots of typos for the sake of speed and immediacy; but said troll's mistakes are almost studied and often occur within the most unlikely misspelled words; it's always a simple but rare word that's incorrect, rather than the typical 'hte' or 'nad' that literate but casual commenters mistakenly include.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, but using "a lot" when you should use "many" is not a typo. Like I said...an 8th-grade reading level.

Anonymous said...

...and that wasn't your only non-typo error in that paragraph!

OneSTDV said...

Regarding state sponsored dysgenics:

This is possibly my all-time favorite graph. Look at how the 1964 Civil rights act IMMEDIATELY destroyed the black family:

http://i879.photobucket.com/albums/ab357/onestdv/newest.jpg

nikcrit said...

"...and that wasn't your only non-typo error in that paragraph!"

FWIW,
There's a distinction between 'conversational writing' and 'formal writing' and I am capable of both. As I've said, I usually opt for speed and immediacy, but not always.
I think the breadth of my remarks over the past several months would readily prove as much (but not that i'm expecting anyone to have made a point of noticing that fact.)

tacticalchrstn said...

I don't think it will be so easy to return to the 1950's.

"You don't need to pay them not to have babies; you simply have to stop rewarding them with money when they have one.

People like this have been among us forever. The welfare state of the fifties is not the welfare state of the present. See the difference?

The minute a pol starts crying about the "poor innocent babies" we offer to have the state take them and put them up for adoption. Then do it."

Suppose we eliminate welfare and bring back true freedom of association. The underclass suddenly falls far below a 1952 standard of living for two reasons.

1. The black family has been all but destroyed and women will not suddenly become eager for monogamy.

2. There are not enough menial jobs that come anywhere close to supporting a family.

The 1950s were a great decade for the non-college educated. In my own family there were auto-workers, tin benders, brewery workers, and concrete masons all of whom raised families during the 1950's. This was before mass immigration and before the rest of the world caught up to the US level of industrialization.

If we make it policy to simply undo the welfare state and hope for the best the result will be a short term disaster. Those kids will not be adopted--they will enter state orphanages like the ones in eastern Europe. The mothers, who have low future time orientation, will keep having babies.

Anonymous said...

Now THAT'S an agent-provocateur troll ^^

Anonymous said...

Nikcrit,

That is true in spoken conversational English, or in text messaging or in an email to a friend, but not in polemical debate on a political website - not unless you were trying to be satirical, which you weren't.

von Clausewitz said...

Now THAT'S an agent-provocateur troll ^^

Something things are just too unPC.

It's rather humorous that on HBD blogs you have people who cannot think of anything positive about blacks and their existence, but refuse the obvious conclusion.

OneSTDV said...

It's rather humorous that on HBD blogs you have people who cannot think of anything positive about blacks and their existence, but refuse the obvious conclusion.

I can't imagine you're NOT a leftist troll. But here's a far better option: a one-way ticket to whatever country they want to go to. Or even giving them 8 states all to themselves.

tacticalchrstn said...

Nuclear troll?

"Something things are just too unPC.

It's rather humorous that on HBD blogs you have people who cannot think of anything positive about blacks and their existence, but refuse the obvious conclusion."

Might as well take the comment seriously. This conclusion is obvious, but it is unnecessary. The USA once thrived with a black population of around 10%. Society was a lot stricter then and dysfunctional behavior was punished rather than celebrated. There were black neigborhoods in many cities that were clean and had small black owned businesses. There was no need for a final solution then or now. Sooner or later the people who run the gas chambers will run out of blacks, jews, and gypsies and come after guys whose names end in witz...

Whenever we have this discussion there are three popular solutions: Re-segregation, mass murder, and leaving the underclass to starve. None of these solutions is acceptable and this is why so many people are unwilling to think about HBD--it leads to the unthinkable. There are other solutions. Singapore is a succesful multi-cultural society.

Anonymous said...

A solution?

Bring back the whip!!! Niggaz hate dat whip, oh lawds.

Anonymous said...

But seriously: Negroes only understand force. Jail doesn't scare them. It's like heaven to them.

Reintroduce swift, brutal punishment for all acts of TNB? Black crime rate drops right away.

OneSTDV said...

Reintroduce swift, brutal punishment for all acts of TNB? Black crime rate drops right away.

The problem: blacks (and dumb people in general) notoriously lack future time orientation. They can't intellectualize negative future consequences, especially if present rewards are available.

Anonymous said...

Just an aside, related to OneSTDV's last comment. My step-daughter is attending nursing school here in Central Texas, and as part of the first-year curriculum covering cultural issues in nursing, they teach that future-time orientation differs between racial (though she says they try to avoid the R word as much as possible) groups with blacks having a more "relaxed" attitude about things like appointments, the taking of medications etc. I was pleasantly surprised when she told me this. LOL.

Daybreaker said...

What next? Shall issue + removal of every humanly removable obstacle to effective self-defense and the association of like-minded citizens, + rubber-stamp acquittals for anyone defending themselves and / or their neighbors, including whoever else was in the mall (or any public place) at the time as a neighbor.

And of course a relentless struggle against federal power, the left "mainstream" media machine and left wing law.

von Clausewitz said...

"I can't imagine you're NOT a leftist troll. But here's a far better option: a one-way ticket to whatever country they want to go to. Or even giving them 8 states all to themselves."

Typical scum tactic. Whomever disagrees with me is a leftist troll. You're showing your yellow streak you rat fink.

Why should I be forced to subsidize the negro? I owe him no allegiance. Similarly, giving them land when they are not capable of anything, look at Africa, is a complete waste.

Indeed, the only thing negroes are good at is theft, rape, and murder. Oh wait, let me guess, but they invented Peanut Butter! Please Go.

The USA once thrived with a black population of around 10%.

That was under slavery. Even Thomas Jefferson noted the inferiority of the negro and suggested mixing of the races is a disaster. Not just genetically but socially too.

Sooner or later the people who run the gas chambers will run out of blacks, jews, and gypsies and come after guys whose names end in witz...

Actually it's negroes only. This is nothing but a slippery slope appeal.

You're little rant about multiculturalism doesn't make sense. Complaining about dysfunctional behavior that is a norm in another cultural contradicts multiculturalism. Thuggery and niggerdom is a central aspect to negro culture.

First off, an ethnic cleansing would improve the economy by eliminating perpetual welfare scum and employing white men that have been laid off from the recession. So really it's pretty much a win win.

nikcrit said...

Anonymous says of my grammatical faux pas (writing 'a lot' rather than 'many.'):
That is true in spoken conversational English, or in text messaging or in an email to a friend, but not in polemical debate on a political website - not unless you were trying to be satirical, which you weren't.

Well, I guess you got me; I'm just a fraud who can't conceal his '8th-grade reading and writing ability' because I said 'a lot' rather than 'many' in an off-topic remark re. a possible troll on this thread.
Still, I must be doing something right; I was able to fool a top-30 circulation newspaper into hiring me and allowing me to work there for more than ten years.
Oh, that was probably because of affirmative action, right?

----------------------------------
Tacticalchrstn says,
A return to any form of forced segregation should be resisted. Any honest student of HBD knows that there are thousands of blacks who are more intelligent and better behaved than the average white. We do not wish to punish the innocent. We do need to start admitting the truth about the guilty. Voluntary sterilization is a long term solution that we are not yet ready for. Right now we pay the disfunctional to reproduce. In the future perhaps we shall pay them not to have babies. William Shockley was right. The denial of HBD runs deep because all of the solutions are distasteful.

Thanks for lending a level-headed voice of reason to the echo chamber.
Seriously, I realize I'm sort-of the odd demographic to this blog, but I sincerely like to debate and comment on blogs in which my own views aren't merely echoed and reified.
And I do understand I'm sort of a interloper here and that there is a time and place for bonding-and-venting among one's own (during such moments, I usually make myself scarce, but appreciate my five-cents-worth being accepted during the more objective discussions).
Anyhow, I would just respectfully add that tacticalchristian's words are true and need to be remembered during more practical and detached debates here, IMHO.

Anonymous said...

1) stop subsidizing reproduction with welfare.

2) build more prisons, they are super effective.

3) get rid of the anchor baby law

4) people who work directly for the government or receive welfare, including medical care payments and college tuition, should not be allowed to vote until they get off of the dole. This is a conflict of interest.

Anonymous said...

Thank the good lord that whites will soon be a minority


It scares me that people like you are even allOwed to voice your opinions

Luckily the splc adl and other civil rights orginizations are wiping you fucks off the map

Anonymous said...

I was talking to the 24 year old umarried, mother of one 6 year old Hispanic girl (yes, she's 24 but she's a "girl") who comes to my sister's house 6 days a week to do 5-7 minutes of chores for my handicapped sis.

She told us she's "trying to get pregnant again." She is, of course, on welfare. Her boyfriend and the father of her only child lives with her. He's unemployed, of course. She has spoken many times of getting her high school degree, but for the umpteenth time, she has started school, then stopped even though childcare is provided. She has no other job nor does she want one.

When I expressed concern that she'd never get ahead if she had another child now, she said, "But they'll give me a bigger check if I have another kid."

We talked. We have talked several times since. It doesn't help. She is trying to get pregnant.

I suggest to you she wouldn't be doing that if she didn't know her welfare check would automatically increase with another kid.

Anonymous said...

nikcrit < Jayson Blair

Anonymous said...

You want the solution: I don't know what the solutions might ultimately be, but I suspect they'd be discovered if the dirty little secret were actually talked about publicly.


When stupid PC disappears or is mocked for what it is, suddenly shame comes back into the picture and contrary to what all those pop psychologists preached on PBS in the 70s, shame can be a very, very good thing for a society.

Talk about bad black behavior. Don't let anyone force you to talk in whispers about it. When they scream "racism" laugh, because those cries are laughable; when they scream "slavery," laugh, and tell them we are all slaves one way or another and if they want to see the worst casese of slavery, go to the African continent and visit parts of Asia.

In short, give them hell and tell them to earn a buck legitimately, with hard work, no college degree necessary even today in the USA.

Call out the lzay and the unambitious. And that means that no matter your party affiliation, you must call out your reps who believe in the redistribution of wealth.

Bring back shame. You fathered a child and don't support the child? Then you're a worthless piece of human shit. You had a kid knowing you couldn't support it? You are a piece of shit.

nikcrit said...

nikcrit < Jayson Blair

Ever since i first mentioned on this blog that i was black and at one-time a journalist, I was waiting for a jayson blair crack!

However, being a feature writer more than a straight-ahead news journalist, actually a joke mentioning Stephen Glass would've been more on-target.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, but you know we're all about race here. If you told me you were Jewish, I would have associated you with Stephen Glass; if female, Janet Cooke - who did, I believe, write features.

Anonymous said...

Ancient Aliens on History Channel is a comedy show right?

I wish it were, but alas, it is not. First Bravo channel went to shit, then History Channel. Is there any channel left that isn't rubbish now? It's why I let my cable subscription lapse and just watch DVDs now. But I'm sure Whiskey will tell me it's my duty to keep watching this stuff. Critically, of course.

kudzu bob said...

It is easier to be kind than strong...up to a point.

Comrade Righteous said...

Whats next?

Policies based on race realism will never come to fruition. Sad, but true.

Look out for an expansion of the prison industrial complex, increased militarization of police and security, and more and larger gated communities.

What can you do?

Get on the desirable side of the bars and fences, or leave the country for greener pastures.

kudzu bob said...

Policies based on race realism will never come to fruition.

Everybody thought that the USSR was here to stay, too. But the same Americans who worried in the early 80's that the Soviets might come to dominate the world were buying chunks of the Berlin Wall as souvenir paperweights before that decade was over.

Racial egalitarianism is about to disappear with astonishing rapidity.

Anonymous said...

Africa is on the rise. It is becoming and econmoic and demographic powershouse.

It is over white boys. I am white but I am a human being first. I agrree with Dr. Ignatiev.

Anonymous said...

"Africa is on the rise."

Africa will be run by and for the Chinese. Learn Mandarin, Mandingo, so you can understand what your new masters are saying.

Camlost said...

Nik, how dare you exercise sub-standard grammar when polemicizing on a "political Website".

Fayette White Guy said...

Americans are taught that you can't identify people by groups, we are all individuals and something like skin color (as if that is all racial difference is) has no bearing on behavior.

The "diversity is strength" mantra was drilled into our heads in public school in South Carolina. Some whites buy into it, some don't, as you see on here and other HBD sites.

Anonymous said...

"Americans are taught that you can't identify people by groups, we are all individuals and something like skin color (as if that is all racial difference is) has no bearing on behavior."

Lip service is given to "you can't identify people by groups. For the last several decades, public policy has indeed identified everyone by groups, AA the most blatant example.

I would say that since the JOhnson era, all we have been taught is that you ARE identified by groups.

Anonymous said...

"Africa is on the rise. It is becoming and econmoic and demographic powershouse."

Troll, you at least need to demonstrate a basic knowledge to fool people for a little while.

Africa, on the rise? I wish it were true. It would make us have some hope that genetics aren't as determinative as we now know.

nikcrit said...

Nik, how dare you exercise sub-standard grammar when polemicizing on a "political Website".

Well, you know how 'me and mine' can be somewhat 'shiftless' when it comes to displaying a proper sense of occasion.
In the future, I'll try to be more dignified and extend more due respect. (lol!)

Anonymous said...

"Africa is on the rise. It is becoming and econmoic and demographic powershouse."

yawzaaa! and Barry be genuus too

Camlost said...

"Africa is on the rise. It is becoming and econmoic and demographic powershouse."

This same troll (often going by the handle "anti-racist") was just saying something totally different last month, commenting that Africa lacks the ability to sustain life and that all Africans would migrate to Europe and the US.

Crack is a helluva drug.

Anonymous said...

Well, you know how 'me and mine' can be somewhat 'shiftless' when it comes to displaying a proper sense of occasion.
In the future, I'll try to be more dignified and extend more due respect. (lol!)


Don't be so defensive; no one accused you of being mentally retarded. And look how ably you imitate the use of sarcasm!

Anonymous said...

I'm pleased to see that nikcrit is willing to consider eugenic measures to improve society in general and his own situation in it. Mr. Evergreen is a disappointment; while he whines about the problem, he shies away any time he's asked about possibilities and has no solutions of his own.

I'd offer another proposal: re-colonization in return for welfare for a limited term. Let those dysfunctional people of African descent who insist on having babies have them, but as citizens of nations like Liberia. A TANF check buys plenty in Africa, and eliminating the burdens of law enforcement and schooling-for-the-ineducable is a huge plus for the rest of us.

Nikcrit, kudos for mentioning Stephen Glass. "Shattered Glass" is a must-see.

And kudos to Kudzu Bob for this:

Racial egalitarianism is about to disappear with astonishing rapidity.

This is all about what the North Korean regime is trying to prevent: a preference cascade. Once a whole lot of people realize that most of the populace is as sick of organized Blackness's blackmail as they are, the power of the elites will be ripped away.

Things will happen much faster if the People hold the elites and their lackeys responsible for the crimes their malfeasance allows. The public at large is cowed by the power of law enforcement (run and staffed by whites), but district attorneys won't prosecute and cops won't arrest people for self-defense if the public brings justice right back to them.

D J said...

Sheila said: "Even should that occur, the SWPLs and Jews will continue making excuses and blaming traditional White Americans."

Sheila: not ALL of us Jews. Not by a long shot. For all the Abe Foxmans and SPLC types, there are many more of us who are as fed up as you are, or more so.

D J said...

"It's the media who "idolize black culture" and promote it."

Just so. And who are the ones tuning in? I shut off the television years ago, and haven't listened to popular "music" in probably 35 years. And that includes the morale-destroying "my truck broke" type of country music.

FAR more people need to tune out the rubbish and the propaganda. The entertainment industry thrives on profits just like other industries. If folks aren't buying, they either change the product or go out of business.