President Barack Obama saluted Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Sunday as a man who "stirred our conscience" and made the Union "more perfect," rejoicing in the dedication of a monument memorializing the slain civil rights leader's life and work. "I know we will overcome," Obama proclaimed. "I know this because of the man towering over us."Given the notion of MLK as an omniscient figure of unparalleled probity, this last statement, that MLK "belongs on the this Mall", garners very little skepticism. We believe he belongs there, amongst other DC statues for Jefferson, Einstein, Franklin, Columbus, and Washington, because he did something worthy of their company. But I dare to ask what exactly did MLK do? Sure he championed (perhaps agitated is more appropriate) for "equal" rights, but ultimately he produced nothing of actual substance. He didn't pioneer the founding of a nation, remake the laws of physics, invent a ton of amazing things, find a whole new continent, or lead a fledging nation. He made good speeches and turned around a few laws.
"He had faith in us and that is why he belongs on this Mall: Because he saw what we might become."
Was he worthy of veneration? Yes, but is the black collective so devoid of value-producing individuals that they must accept a professional agitator as their ultimate luminary? Well, NewsOne.com answers that question with their list of Five Black Americans Who Need Monuments:
4 Little Girls — Birmingham, Alabama: Civil Rights-era murder victimsCommenters mention these individuals as well:
Fannie Lou Hamer: Civil Rights activist
James Weldon Johnson: Civil Rights activist
Stokely Carmichael: Civil Rights activist
Nat Turner: proto-Civil Rights activist who lead slave revolt
Elijah Muhammad, Marcus Garvey, Drew Ali, Harriet Tubman, Huey Newton, Malcolm X, John HorseSo basically more professional "hate-whitey" racialists. I'm surprised they left out Nobel Peace Prize nominee Tookie Williams. I guess murder victim Oscar Grant already has a plaza named after him in Oakland, so that's a done deal. And to further the point, here's a book listing the 100 Greatest African Americans with the following criteria:
Fred Hampton, Boukman Baba, Queen NZinga, Assata Shakur and Mumia Abu Jamal
-"significance in the general progress of Aliens toward full equality in the American social and political system" [translation: race-baiting]In addition to the usual suspects, I suspect the list also includes lots of "first" blacks who gained acclaim for doing something tons of other white people did before them. To appraise the quality of the list, note that the list contains "black"-American Tiger Woods!
-"self-sacrifice and a willingness to take great risks for the collective good" [translation: race-baiting leading to murder by racist white people]
-"unusual will and determination in the face of great danger and against the most stubborn odds" [translation: a black "first" like Jackie Robinson or the Little Rock 9]
-"a consistent posture toward raising the social, cultural and economic status of African Americans" [translation: race-baiting]
-"personal achievement that reveals the best qualities of the African American people" [translation: they wrote black poetry/literature, played basketball, or rapped real good]
It appears then that the best way to attain status as a revered black figure is to get murdered by white people or become a professional racial agitator, i.e. a black Democrat political figure. I guess MLK has both, so that's why he's at the top.
Finally, as noted above, very few "greatest African-American" list include people who actually did something. White people make monuments to producers and innovators; black people make monuments for martyrs and rabble-rousers. Ostensibly, blacks have a far more limited class of individuals to choose from, the putative scientific or philosophical genius not exactly a common occurrence amongst blacks. But one imagines that the antagonistic nature of these glorified black figures reflects the primary motivation of the black collective. In almost all these cases, the prominent black figure does nothing but stick it to white people. Thus, blacks don't want to celebrate their own achievements, instead preferring to pay tribute to those who merely antagonize or undermine whites. In sum, it seems that the black conception of their own collective, founded more in hating whites than supporting their communities, is yet another unhealthy reality of modern black America.
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I don't know. I think blacks do love their athletes and entertainers the best, which are the same blacks whites like and admire.
The army just named its first black female 2-star General:
http://www.theroot.com/buzz/army-names-first-black-female-two-star-general
Of course, she's never seen combat and her discipline is "Human Resources".
President Barack Obama saluted Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Sunday as a man who "stirred our conscience" and made the Union "more perfect," rejoicing in the dedication of a monument memorializing the slain civil rights leader's life and work. "I know we will overcome," Obama proclaimed. "I know this because of the man towering over us."
I am going to agree with Barak Obama on the "stirred our conscience" thing. You can only stir the nation's conscience if the have a conscience. We do. So, thanks for the compliment, Obama. Obama knows "we will overcome" supposedly referring to blacks/minorities. Well, that ability to overcome must be underwritten by someone, and it damned sure ain't going to be blacks and minorities. The can only move op with a force outside themselves lifting them up. We know what they do on their own. So, yes, race agitators are the kind of leaders for them because making it on their own is not an option. To move up, they must have help.
One has to dig really deep to find a black with capabilities beyond just making noise. Are there any black writers, commentators or other pontificators, besides Thomas Sowell, in America that can actually write something original that doesn't revolve around race?
They named a high school here after Walter Payton, the ball player, so as to get a black name into the spotlight. Whatever one thinks about him or of football, he had nothing to do with education, science or anything having to do with the mission of a school. At least he was non-political, making him a safe choice. We also have a community college named after Malcolm X, who was hardly a scholar. Not much to pick from, I guess.
The Africans were brought here to provide some labor muscle power, not to form think tanks, and that's the way it stays regardless of all the pretense otherwise.
"But I dare to ask what exactly did MLK do? Sure he championed (perhaps agitated is more appropriate) for "equal" rights, but ultimately he produced nothing of actual substance. He didn't pioneer the founding of a nation, remake the laws of physics, invent a ton of amazing things, find a whole new continent, or lead a fledging nation. He made good speeches and turned around a few laws."
Lincoln destroyed half the country and he has an entire monument reminiscent of a grand temple to Zeus. FDR was a quasi-dictator and has one too, albeit a more modest one. Official mythology doesn't necessarily have to make sense.
Personally I'd rather watch a football game than listen to the discussion of a think tank.
"In almost all these cases, the prominent black figure does nothing but stick it to white people. Thus, blacks don't want to celebrate their own achievements, instead preferring to pay tribute to those who merely antagonize or undermine whites."
I think it's more of a natural outgrowth of non-Asian minorities' strengths, such as they are. When you point out that certain forms of genius aren't common to Blacks you are onto something.
There simply aren't enough NAM's with STEM accomplishments who achieved prominence in the century. At another blog (Steve Sailer's, I think) there was a comparison of Nobel awards amongst racial/ethnic groups. Unlike, for example, Jews, who achieved excellence in several fields, Black recipients almost universally received the award for work in the humanities. Or humanitarian work. The same thing plays out on every college campus. Were the Black professors at your alma mater in, say, the Physics Department? Or were 90% of them in "_____ Studies"?
Reflexive anti-Western dogma amongst postwar academics accounts for the "stick it to YT" tone amongst Black icons today. Before this attitude was common, Blacks became famous by coopting "White" culture especially in non-STEM areas. Consider Paul Robeson & Marian Anderson. Not geniuses, but both celebrated for doing "white" things, i.e. Shakespeare & high-culture music, very well.
Hilarious and true post. Black people have Organized Blackness and the racial agitators that bring little value to the real world, outside of hustling corporations. demanding more rights from the government and shaking down individuals.
Outside of athletes and Organized Blackness, what Black individual is worthy of admiration?
The guy who invented the super soaker, which is just an improvement upon other water guns?
Here are two black Americans worth honoring:
George Washington Carver. An honest-to-goodness scientist whose work improved the lives and livelihoods of poor people (especially poor black farmers). Also a humble man, unlike your typical black grandstanding celebrities.
Booker T Washington. Promoted a vision for American Negroes based on church, sexual restraint, family cohesion, hard work, vocational education, conciliation towards whites, and little if any political or legal theatrics. This vision was challenged by WEB DuBois, who advocated elitism ("talented tenth"), leftist liberal arts education, aggression towards whites, Marxist economics, and the primacy of civil rights politics over the building character and community among Negroes themselves. DuBois' vision won out because he had Jewish money and organizational skill backing him up. A real tragedy for the US.
Consider also Frederick Douglass. Yes, yes, I know, he fits well the "agitator" category, but he also was vocal in opposition to mass immigration. We restrictionists should name-drop him with open-borders supporters more often.
I remember an Atlantic article called "The New Black Intellectuals." Title sounded promising, but it turned out that the only thing these "intellectuals" could write about was Being Black. They never seem to break out of that ghetto. When I see the photo of the black columnist in the local paper, I just know he's not writing about space exploration, or the Chinese economy - he's writing about Being Black.
(To be fair, sometimes these guys write about Being Black in other countries too.)
I agree with Noah172 about GW Carver. He'd probably make it into the bottom 50 of the top 100 human beings who made the lives of ordinary people better if such a list were ever drawn up honestly. His development of peanut butter, in particular, is vital to the nutrition of a lot of picky eaters (including vegetarians/vegans) and children. He probably actually gets about the amount of recognition that he deserves, albeit much more so for his blackness and nowhere near enough for his actual contributions. Thomas Crapper's name, by contrast, has become an epithet, and he is owed a great deal for his refinement and popularizing one of the great inventions in sanitation.
Were the Black professors at your alma mater in, say, the Physics Department? Or were 90% of them in "_____ Studies"?
I looked this up for Harvard profs:
http://onestdv.blogspot.com/2010/02/onestdvs-law-of-black-intellectualism.html
19 out of 45 total black professors (over 40%) at Harvard are faculty in the Department of African-American studies.
The rest are probably spread out in the sociology, English, and other humanities departments where they basically just write about being black (or in academic speak: "issues of race and class").
Black people have Organized Blackness and the racial agitators that bring little value to the real world
Paul Kersey's concept of Organized Blackness is almost the same as my "Law of Black Intellectualism" which Heliogabalus has also noticed.
"I agree with Noah172 about GW Carver. He'd probably make it into the bottom 50 of the top 100 human beings who made the lives of ordinary people better if such a list were ever drawn up honestly."
I doubt it.
The sheer number of whites who have done more impactful things is just so huge that there isn't time in the day to recognize them all. So, we are largely unaware of them. Note that three major computing figures died recently and only one was recognized widely. Consider that there are like 20 more of similar stature to the two unrecognized and that in only one field of endeavor. There are just huge numbers of whites making very important contributions.
If a list were honestly drawn up, GW Carver would be at most in the bottom 50 of the top 10,000. He is a good guy, but his accomplishments are not amazing.
Whites who have contributed as much or more than Carver:
Wallace Carothers
Pierre Castan
Thomas Hancock
Nikolai Bernardos
Selman Waksman
William Shockley
Etienne Lenoir
When the demographics change we'll see how good whites are then.
The only reaon blacks havent done more is becuae of ehites stealing their innovation s and keeping them doen.
When the demographics change we'll see how good whites are then.
The only reaon blacks havent done more is becuae of ehites stealing their innovation s and keeping them doen.
This strikes me as a double standard - every people honors and values "agitators" who (from their perspective) improved the condition of their people - especially peoples who have spent much of their history in a subordinate position.
For example, look at this list someone compiled of those whom he considers the one hundred greatest Irish people. By my count, it includes at least seventeen people who were primarily "agitators" or worse by your definition - and there are doubtless many more among the names I do not recognize.
http://unitedirelander.blogspot.com/2006/11/100-greatest-irish-people.html
George Washington Carver was a fraud.
Peanut History: George Washington Carver: The Making of a Myth
http://www.network54.com/Forum/256246/thread/1088896552/last-1088896552/George+Washington+Carver-+The+Making+of+a+Myth
Just heard of an incident which, if true, shakes my faith in BRA. On SF radio, a black grandmother called to say her grandson is facing life, under Cal's "3-strikes" law, because he was arrested for indedent exposure. He his wife was shopping for lingerie, and he got aroused. The alleged "exposure" was simply the pants-adjusting that all men routinely do. Hard to believe store security would arrest a black guy under these facts.
I don't know One. Maybe it's because I'm Canadian, but, I don't feel any of the anger or resentment that seems to cloud your opinions.
You seem to forget that the Black population was actually oppressed in America. MLK was a great agitator, because, under oppression, great men become agitators. Without oppression, great men become other types of leaders. Jesus was an agitator. Moses was an agitator. I believe that the founding fathers of America were agitators. (But, I didn't study them too closely because my high school taught us about some old men in Prince Edward Island negotiating Confederation to create the nation of Canada).
It's necessary for people call out the inanities of anti-racists and other leftist zealots. However, I would find this blog much more productive if you gave these facts the respect they deserve instead of trying to stir up the dirt and raise the ire of black people. But, I guess that's what many of your fans want.
I don't know One. Maybe it's because I'm Canadian, but, I don't feel any of the anger or resentment that seems to cloud your opinions.
This post expresses "anger and resentment"?!? Are you serious?
You seem to forget that the Black population was actually oppressed in America. MLK was a great agitator, because, under oppression, great men become agitators.
Was the goal of equal rights ultimately a noble one? Yes, though I'd argue the amount of oppression is highly exaggerated, as evinced by first hand accounts of life on the street, see Podhertz's "My Negro Problem".
You make two mistakes:
1) Besides people like Frederick Douglass, most professional blacks including MLK were not interested in mere equality. They were interested in unfairly appropriating white's hard work. Sailer has mused that if MLK hadn't been killed he would have had a career identical to his contemporary Jesse Jackson.
2) My point isn't that all of these people were useless. My point is that blacks celebrate them, both as a reflection of the paucity of actual productive blacks and due to their impassioned animus towards whites. Whites have statues of Einstein, Newton, da Vinci, Franklin, and Gauss - men who actually did something. They produced something tangible, something of value, something that is objectively worthwhile.
Blacks celebrate Oscar Grant whose main achievement was getting killed. Or Malcolm X whose main achievement was hating white people. Or ELijah muhummad whose main achievement is proffering the idea that a black scientist Yakob created white people.
And the Founding Fathers were not agitators, they were incredible political visionaries. They created a more "perfect union" through unbelievable insight into how societies should work and how people will react to society's organization.
you gave these facts the respect they deserve instead of trying to stir up the dirt and raise the ire of black people.
You think I should give anti-racists the respect they deserve? LOL.
And honestly, I'm still nonplussed as to your contention that my "anger and resentment" cloud my opinions. Just completely confused to tell you the truth.
Who is this John Rambo spammer?
Are you Whiskey (aka Testing99 aka Evil Neocon)?
(Steve Sailer readers know what I mean)
SBPDL, I did post on your blog about the black engineer who designed the world's first cartridge-based home video game console. Do you really think the super soaker is better than that?
In the field of music, you have Scott Joplin. A man who wrote great and beautiful music, he is worthy of admiration and emulation. Then there is Duke Ellington, Charles Mingus, Thelonious Monk, not to mention Louis Armstrong, Miles Davis, John Coltrane, and Sonny Rollins. These are great composer-musicians, and straight musicians, at least as gifted and worthy of admiration and emulation as Caruso, Elvis, Dick Dale, Brian Wilson, and Lennon/McCartney.
Black literature however is fifth rate.
As proof of Black mastery in music, simply listen to any of these guys on Youtube. If they move you, even now, removed in time and place from when they worked, they are masters. Solace and some of Joplins piano rags are quite beautiful. They can make you feel. That's mastery, and Caruso, Elvis, Armstrong, Davis, and Lennon/McCartney at the height of their powers all had it. Maybe in different ways, but they all had it.
Its OK Blacks have not done much outside Music (where they did a lot, maybe collectively from 1890-1980 a close tie to Germans from Bach, Mozart, and Beethoven). The Irish have done nothing outside literature, and a few musicians/composers. The Irish have been completely absent from Math/Science, almost without exception. But the Irish don't go around saying, feck it, we're worthless because all we've got are Guiness, whiskey distilleries, great literature, poetry, and the guys from U2, the Pogues, and the Chieftans. They don't make up fake accomplishments by Irishmen in Math and Science (Paddy here discovered the beer molecule, lads!) They are who they are and are proud of it.
MLK was not a 'great man' nor 'worthy of veneration.'
He was a plagiarist and an adulterous fraud. The fact that he is the only American with his own federal holiday is testament to the awful state we are in.
Two slightly off-topic comments.
One STDV said that, "the Founding Fathers were not agitators, they were incredible political visionaries".
And they had balls. They accepted a 50% chance that they would end up dangling from a British gallows.
BTW, just imagine that Gaddafi died peacefully before the Arab spring". Wouldn't have been fun to hear Hillary's respectful comments of appreciation.
There is not a black person in this country that got to where they are at on their own. From the moment that black baby is born, probably one of several to a black women, and in all probability to one of the 75 percent of unmarried black women, and to an unknown sperm donor, that black baby is on the dole. The black mother has absolutely no way of paying the thousands of dollars for the hospital fees that it takes to birth this black baby. The black mother knows it, and the hospital knows it. It's white working taxpayers who will pay for the birth of this black baby.
From the moment this black baby is born every city, state, county, and the federal government will do everything within it's power, and that's a lot of power, to see to it that this black has every chance that a welfare society can give a black. Free housing, food, free education, affirmative action for jobs, and college. Corporations and business will be intimadated to employ this person, special laws are on the books just for this black person, courts will rule just for this black person, and the list goes on and on.
Think of Obama. If he would have been white what would have been his chances of becoming president?
Whiskey,
Put down the bottle. Wiki lists 43 pages of notable mathematicians from Ireland. Ireland currently has a population of 4.5 million. Wiki lists 3 pages African mathematicians and 10 pages for South Africans. Africa has a population of about a billion.
Cul De Sac Hero embodies that trait in DWL’s that could be quantified mathematically: The further away from negroes a White person lives the more likely he is to believe the lies that the MSM promotes about blacks. First hand experience with animals is what finally wakes them up. MLK was promoted by the MSM and assassinated to provide a martyr for the cause of stealing the West away from its White creators. When you actually study his life, you eventually see it was just more TNB.
Jesus Christ Supercop: If you are not a negro, you are an utter disgrace to your race. If you are black (which you probably are, given the lies you fools seem to regurgitate) why don’t you actually do some research? I know that’s not a black “thang” but at least you will have to shut-up. Here was the first inventor of a cartridge game console. Yo’ brutha wasn’t even close.
http://www.ideafinder.com/history/inventors/baer.htm
And Whiskey: you are ignorant of what you speak, as has been shown. However, something you need to think about: blacks only do that which they are physically gifted and never break out of that. In fact, that is probably true about everyone, since genetics is at least 50% of the equation. And when you get to the point of realizing that culture is created by genetic entities, it may be all genetics. We certainly see how negroes in White countries are much better off than black countries. Let’s not forget the White admixture that gives American blacks higher IQ’s than their African relatives. So, what are blacks good at? Runnin’, jumpin’, and making noise. Not to mention rape, murder, transmitting STD’s, and blamin’ YT for their lack of accomplishment.
And Anonymous from 3:18 PM on 10/28 who posted:
When the demographics change we'll see how good whites are then.
The only reaon blacks havent done more is becuae of ehites stealing their innovation s and keeping them doen.
How have Whites been able to keep the great Nubian black man down…..for 60,000 years? You ignorantly point out that you people are incapable of competing in the process of life unless someone else gives you something. By the way, learn how to use spell check. I know your people have no literary and verbal structure of your own, but all the other races do and words should be spelled the same for everyone to enhance the ability to communicate. Oh, and please inform us about the “innovations” your race has provided. We need the comedy relief. Only don’t post any of these, since these “innovations” were never created by your people and consist of deliberate lies DWL’s provide so you people don’t have to admit you have done NOTHING!
http://www3.brinkster.com/iiiii/inventions/
Whiskey says,
These are great composer-musicians, and straight musicians, at least as gifted and worthy of admiration and emulation as Caruso, Elvis, Dick Dale, Brian Wilson, and Lennon/McCartney.
Dick Dale??? (LMAO); some of these pro-white screeds deliver some precious-ass shite!(p.s., one of my most precious memories from my last job was interviewing f2f Brian Wilson, in his house on the outskirts of Chicago; it was in the late '90s during one his many 'comebacks' from depression and other maladies; actually got to watch him rehearse with his band for a half-hr. from about five-feet away, and then interview for a half-hr. one-on-one. Feel Flows live! Precious indeed!
Black literature however is fifth rate.
Language arts is the process of generation-upon-generation trading, signifying, genuflecting, reconsidering, metaphorically alluding to, etc., earlier writings by people of the same language, culture, area, traditions, folklore,etc.
So: how can a literature tradition do any of that if there's no written culture until relatively recently?
R.R.'s win their point by pointing out blacks lack of a written culture compared to that of whites ----- but the rest is just 'piling on,' so to speak, such as when they 'dis' black lit; it's a GIVEN that a oral-vs.-written culture isn't going to have a sophisticated literary tradition!
(incidentally: that African-&-African-American lean toward a oral culture probably has much to do with their often-perceived musical 'superiority,' etc.)
^Well, Dale's popularization of the old Greek melody (yes, it goes that far back) was good enough for the BLACK Eyed Peas to shamelessly "sample" and pass off as their own. Never once have I heard these black "hip hop artists" give a white musician they have "borrowed from" give any credit. Unlike in the past, I suspect that very few aspiring black musicians have the patience to learn an instrument (even a few chords). They just want the instant gratification of fame.
I'm not saying no black ever gives credit, but it happens so infrequently (especially given how commonplace it is for them to "sample" white musicians) that I've never heard it. Instead, I usually hear people like that whatsherdumbface from the Fugees saying she'd rather have her children stave than have her music purchased by whites (which is not only "hateful" if a white were to say anything within that orbit, but also a lie.) Yet, they'll shower their fellow blacks with endless praise for "keepin it real." Most blacks are just "racist." And that's fine. I just wish they'd stop pretending it's just whites who value their own above all; if they value their own over my own then they shouldn't expect me to value them as much I have my own race and culture, either. And I don't because frankly their body of production is very lacking next to what white Western civilization has produced.
You are right to separate Dale from the other musicians, though. But I hardly think of Dale as some insignificant laughing stock. He's rightfully The King of The Surf Guitar.
I hardly think of Dale as some insignificant laughing stock. He's rightfully The King of The Surf Guitar.
I wasn't laughing so much at Dick Dale; moreso just the refreshing oddity of him being placed on that list; I love Dick Dale; I remember seeing him play in chi. at Metro during his 'Pulp Fiction'-induced comeback; for the encore, he brought his son onstage, for some dueling lead guitar runs on 'Miserlou."
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Who cares who the Black-Eyed Peas accredit for their crappy music; some of their sources probably don't even want to be acknowledged for being as much! Still, rappers acknowledge who they sample from; there's a whole industry built on that practice, with federal court precedents of the last fifteen years informing the standard rates and sample lengths per-song.
Anonymous: "If you are not a negro, you are an utter disgrace to your race. If you are black (which you probably are, given the lies you fools seem to regurgitate) why don’t you actually do some research?"
You're saying anyone who says anything positive about a black person has to be black himself? Are you posting this shit from a mental asylum?
"I know that’s not a black “thang” but at least you will have to shut-up. Here was the first inventor of a cartridge game console. Yo’ brutha wasn’t even close.
http://www.ideafinder.com/history/inventors/baer.htm"
Uh huh.
Wikipedia:
"The Odyssey uses a type of removable printed circuit board card that inserts into a slot similar to a cartridge slot; these do not contain any components but have a series of jumpers between pins of the card connector. These jumpers interconnect different logic and signal generators to produce the desired game logic and screen output components respectively."
"[The Fairchild Channel F] has the distinction of being the first programmable ROM cartridge-based video game console."
Hey, negro, what date was it "invented"? Wouldn't that be useful in determining if something was first? You know, you negroes buy into any fiction concerning your people's "accomplishments", but you lack the intelligence to actually research the issue. Try to keep up:
Invention: Magnavox Odyssey in 1972
Definition: A video game system manufactured by Magnavox that consisted of a console, game cartridges and translucent plastic overlays to cover a TV screen.
Patent: 3,728,480 (US) issued April 17, 1973
This is what you say about your fellow negro:
"the black engineer who designed the world's first cartridge-based home video game console".
You use Wikipedia as your source and even this questionable source says "first programmable ROM cartridge-based video game console."
So, there were other game cartridges before a ROM based one. You see, you negroes don't understand the difference between inventions, patents, and marketed items. Perhaps you could give us the negro's patent numbers for this device? No? Perhaps you could look at the "gentleman" in question and comment on his relatively light skin. You know, White admixture. Perhaps you could give us the names and races of the people that he worked with on this project? No? It is in Wikipedia. Learn something, negro:
Jerry worked with Nick Talesfore who was responsible for the Industrial Design of the hand controllers, console and video game cartridges as the manager of Industrial Design; and, Ron Smith who was responsible for the mechanical engineering of the video cartridges and the 8 degrees of freedom hand controllers. All worked for Fairchild Semiconductor headed by Wilf Corigan a division of Fairchild Camera & Instrument. Notably, Robert Noyce worked on the F8 design team before he left Fairchild to start his own company, Intel.
Hmm, sounds like Jerry did very little, actually.
You see, the MSM protects you humanoids from reality and deliberately presents disingenuous "facts" which are either outright lies or stretching the truth.... to the Yukon. This guy dies and there are countless posts about it on the Internet. Why? Not because he invented the first console gaming system, but because your masters have to provide you people with unearned fictions about the contributions you have made to mankind. That's easy Runnin', jumpin', making noise. But, intellectually, not so much.
All I know is that his F'n statue is taller than Thomas Jefferson's and Monroes--as well as Washington and Lincoln. It's G'D'n travesty is what it is. John Paul Jones--the Father of the U.S. Navy, has a ten foot tall statue and a mausoleum in Russia--he fathered their navy as well. G'd"n shame is what it is. A commie negro with a 35ft tall statue in the middle of the whiteman's mall--shameful.
At least it was built by the Chinese, so at least there is a chance they might repo it in a few years when our money is worthless.
Next thing you know, there'll be piccaninnies playing in the white house--
" a little piccaninny went a strolling out one day..."
Oh wait, there already are....
"Hey, negro, what date was it "invented"? Wouldn't that be useful in determining if something was first?"
As I just told you, the Odyssey did not use a proper cartridge.
"You know, you negroes buy into any fiction concerning your people's "accomplishments", but you lack the intelligence to actually research the issue."
Who are these negroes you're talking to? Are you hallucinating? You should go see a doctor, they've got pills for that sort of thing now.
"Hmm, sounds like Jerry did very little, actually."
He designed it. Video game consoles weren't made by one person even back then.
JC Supercrap is still at it. As usual, when a negro is called on his lies, he just digs himself in deeper. So now you admit the Odyssey was a cartridge console, just not a "proper" cartridge. You have gone from "inventing" it to designing it. Do you know the difference? Excuse me while I chortle at your laughable blackness. You first started out claiming the magic negro designed the first cartridge game console, then it was ROM based cartridge console, now it is "proper" cartridge. Do you see why no other race can stand to be around negroes. You are such lying scum. Nigga, pleez!
What you have in the magic negro is an Affirmative Action negro that was smarter than your average negro, given a position because he was black, and, in a group project that was more than likely actually "designed" by other people, is said to have "designed" it because he sat at they head of a table and said "The boys upstairs want us to get in on this video game action. How can we do this?"
I asked you for patent numbers for this black "genius". Do some research and see if you can find any. If not, what you have is a group effort, using parts and technology already in existence. As I showed you
" Nick Talesfore who was responsible for the Industrial Design of the hand controllers, console and video game cartridges as the manager of Industrial Design; and, Ron Smith who was responsible for the mechanical engineering of the video cartridges and the 8 degrees of freedom hand controllers."
Please tell us what your magic negro actually "designed". You negroes continue to try and promote fictions to conceal how unevolved your brains are. And you don't stop, even when your lies are exposed. Take pride in the fact that you are the most despised race on the planet and no other wants to have anything to do with you. However, they are forced to by laws that ignorant DWL's have imposed on them based on their false premise that you are the same as White people. Except the external things. And the internal things. And everything we can measure. But, boy, in those things we can't measure, you guys are exactly the same.
Everybody understands the lie that is "The check's in the mail". Each year, fewer and fewer non-negroid people believe your races' check is in the mail, or that you even have a bank account.
While it is fascinating to interact with people with several mental illnesses, it quickly becomes tiring.
Yeah, and this is what is so great about the internet for idiots like you. When you can't win a debate by facts, use ad hominems. Try to claim some moral or intellectual victory by insulting your opponent, instead of debating his facts. Poor negro. Your attempt at self-righteousness only works on black and liberal websites, not here.
Look, I know it sucks to be you. You can’t make it on your own but you refuse to admit the shortcomings of your race and the lies used to promote your presence in White countries. Now, either address the points that shot your ridiculous premise to shreds or shut-up. If you shut-up, at least you won't continue to be shown to be a low IQ negro.
Yeah, and this is what is so great about the internet for idiots like you. When you can't win a debate by facts, use ad hominems. Try to claim some moral or intellectual victory by insulting your opponent, instead of debating his facts. Poor negro. Your attempt at self-righteousness only works on black and liberal websites, not here.
Look, I know it sucks to be you. You can’t make it on your own but you refuse to admit the shortcomings of your race and the lies used to promote your presence in White countries. Now, either address the points that shot your ridiculous premise to shreds or shut-up. If you shut-up, at least you won't continue to be shown to be a low IQ negro.
"While it is fascinating to interact with people with several mental illnesses, it quickly becomes tiring."
Courtesy of JCS
He completely, soundly, crushed you, and you end not with an attempt at proof to the contrary, but with some silly comment about his "mental illnesses" (reality?), and of you being bored (because ANOTHER YT refused to suffer your tripe?)
Game, set, match...
He couldn't "crush" a five year old, because he is severely mentally ill as well as very unintelligent.
@ JCS:
Are you black? I never knew or even considered this actually.
JCS
A five year old, eh? Clever.
He told you you were FOS, and then backed it all up with facts. You? You called him a nut.
No doubt at all that if this exchange were in person, and if - and ONLY if - you had a weapon/were physically much larger, you would have attacked. It's part of negro "logic". 1) say something stupid 2) if countered, filibuster, then yell, then either attack, or storm off while threatening to attack.
He is hallucinating that he's talking to a black person because in his fantasy world anyone who has anything positive to say about blacks must be black himself. Of course I called him a nut, because that's what he is.
And I see you're just as insane as he is. Shit, you two are probably the same person.
JCS
Wait. So you've given in about the 'ventin' stuff, and are now solely focused on his belief that you may or may not be a negro?
Holy shit, indeed...
Well, he had the chance to shut-up, but like every negro, he was incapable of doing it. You know, negro, you've made a fool of yourself. But then, that's just TNB. If you will read my initial post in this thread, you will see:
Jesus Christ Supercop: If you are not a negro, you are an utter disgrace to your race. If you are black (which you probably are, given the lies you fools seem to regurgitate) why don’t you actually do some research? I know that’s not a black “thang” but at least you will have to shut-up. Here was the first inventor of a cartridge game console. Yo’ brutha wasn’t even close.
Now, all you had to do was say, "I'm a proud DWL and you are an evil racist". Instead, all you did was avoid it and hide behind your keyboard. Come on! Are you a proud (but a stupid, lying) Nubian warrior? Or are you a programmed, neutered White person that believes what he sees on TV? And if you are of mixed blood, any negro DNA makes you want to find excuses for black behavior, so you might as well be black. We already know you are not intelligent enough to carry on a reasoned debate and have to throw a "Nah nah nah, boo boo" tantrum, since you can't provide anything that supports your initial, and laughable, negrocentric lie.
Since I am somewhat familiar with the history of the electronic computer, let me show just how pathetic the claims of JCS on behalf of his game-console hero really are.
Pluggable re-wiring boards go back decades before game consoles. They were used by the German Enigma cipher machines in the 1940's and possibly before. You can take it for granted that no Black cryptographer was working for the Nazis.
The concept of plugging a ROM cartridge into a computer is also very old. Before game consoles, special-purpose computers used EPROM, write-once PROM and even mask-programmed ROM chips to hold stored programming. Changing a program required removing a chip (usually a wide DIP, often 24 or more pins) and inserting a different one. The chips themselves were too delicate and the sockets unable to handle enough insertion cycles for this to work for consumer products, but board-edge connnectors had a considerable history by that time and were much more robust. Indeed, they'd already been used on the Odyssey game system.
What's left for JCS's Black hero to do? Someone had already developed and sold consumer products with plug-in circuitry (developed as military gear perhaps 40 years before). Details of connectors and the housing to protect them when unplugged were out there. Everyone knew about ROM chips, it was just a matter of waiting for them to get cheap enough for consumer gear. Can anyone seriously claim that designing the details of a ROM cartridge was a major accomplishment at that time?
No. It's the kind of false glory claimed by Soviets, Islamists... and revisionist historians exaggerating Black feats and abilities.
Maybe JCS is Black. Maybe JCS is a DWL. But it's proven that JCS is seriously and willfully duped.
"Still, rappers acknowledge who they sample from; there's a whole industry built on that practice, with federal court precedents of the last fifteen years informing the standard rates and sample lengths per-song."
This is the second time I've had an exchange with you where you've managed to confuse my own indictments on people's personal characters with the law. I made no reference to case law or any sort of such precedent. Not breaking the law =/= classy person. My point was merely about the class of such musicians, not the legality of anything they have done. And again, I don't think hardly any mainstream black acts can make music without sampling; yet, they act as though they create this great music rather than having re-appropriated it in some unfortunate way.
There is no shortage of cocky blacks that sample from white artists who never seem to acknowledge this fact. Yet, whites are supposed to admit that blacks "invented" rock 'n' roll.
I do agree with you that Dick Dale does not belong in that list, though.
RE: "This is the second time I've had an exchange with you where you've managed to confuse my own indictments on people's personal characters with the law. I made no reference to case law or any sort of such precedent. Not breaking the law =/= classy person. My point was merely about the class of such musicians, not the legality of anything they have done."
I only cited the 'business' of sampling, and the recent court cases that inform its rates, etc., because I had recently read a article about it before our exchange; I didn't mention it to counter anything specific you said.
I've seen tons of rap acts and spoken to dozens if not more than a hundred rappers, and it's my casual if fairly anecdotally informed opinion that they don't necessarily 'deny' the white sources of many of those samples; my impression is that they use samples without any particular sense of tribute or respect period -----which perhaps you reasonably interpret as ingratitude. I just don't recall any rappers specifically denying the origins of said samples.
Also, again off the top of my head, if I guessed what were the racial origins of the bands or groups most frequently used on rap records historically, I say that most of 'em come from black acts: two of the biggest-sampled R&B acts were James Brown and George Clinton/Parliament-Funkadelic; the latter especially has seen his songs used in snippets on rap singles hundreds of times (in fact, former Parliament keyboardist Bernie Worrell was known for his public laments about his work being used, and i think he even initiated legal action over it. Still, I know there's tons of white rock bands who've had their work sampled on rap songs ----- and most are now getting paid for it, though that wasn't always the case (until those aforementioned precedents informed the new copyright law).
I think it'd be interesting to see a quantitative survey of all recorded rap music since the late '70s breaking down which artists were sampled on the work; I don't know but i wouldn't be surprised if more black artists than white artists were sampled as part of the total. I am pretty sure that Clinton/Parliament-Funkadelic is the single most sampled artist in rap history, & that i've read stuff claiming as much.
(it's funny, but the first rap song i can rrecall off the top of my head that featured a sample was by a act named EPMD; I believe the title was "You're a Customer", (I think) and the sample was of Steve Miller's "Fly Like a Eagle."
"And again, I don't think hardly any mainstream black acts can make music without sampling .....
Tons of R&B acts created hits without white rock samples; most current R&B acts that do use samples in their work cull them from classic 70s/80s soul-R&B, hands down IMHO.
But again, we'd need the results of that sampling-history-study I suggested before I could say as much with authority.
@OneSTDV,
Re. the recent exchanges between JC Supercop and his "Anonymous" antagonists: They provide perfect argument to the pitfalls of anonymous 'commentary.'
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RE: "There is no shortage of cocky blacks that sample from white artists who never seem to acknowledge this fact. Yet, whites are supposed to admit that blacks "invented" rock 'n' roll."
"RE: "There is no shortage of cocky blacks that sample from white ....."
Edit: I left that at the end of my last comment by mistake.
"Wait. So you've given in about the 'ventin' stuff, and are now solely focused on his belief that you may or may not be a negro?"
I haven't given in, I've just decided that there's little sense in arguing with someone who is obviously insane (and doesn't know what he's talking about). If I actually kept taking him seriously he'd soon start babbling about Jewish mind control satellites.
"Since I am somewhat familiar with the history of the electronic computer, let me show just how pathetic the claims of JCS on behalf of his game-console hero really are."
Blah blah blah.
Racists are almost as tiresome as leftists. Such is the way of -isms.
Well, the pathetic negro still can't shut-up or admit he is wrong, can he? Hey, negro, how does showing you to be a lying fool equate to being "insane" and "doesn't know what he's talking about" and jewish conspiracy theories? You have lost the debate. I have shown you facts with documentation. You merely babble on about how I don't know what I'm talking about when everyone sees it is you that doesn't know what you are talking about. Keep it up. It's just your TNB.
And for the poster that finds my Anonymous tag annoying, I have decided to take the tag Anonymous White Male. Happy?
Who are you talking to?
To you, idiot wind. And to the intelligent people that have watched your temper tantrum.
Hey, everybody. I just thought of something. Supercrap has admitted that he can't outdebate a mentally ill, insane racist. What is this world coming to when negroes and DWL's can't provide intellectual support for the lies they tell? Oh, that's right, they never have been able to, have they?
Sorry about the facts Supercrap, but it is you that don't know what you are talking about. All you have to do is address the facts that Mr. Rational and I have provided. You haven't You kept posting the same incorrect source, changing your terms, and trying to side step the issue by insulting your opponent. If you are a DWL, here's what you should have done: Assume an air of moral superiority, dismiss the facts as "racist" (funny how facts are always racist for you people), and then scurry off under the refrigerator like the roach you are. However, the sequence of actions you have performed are typical of a negro. And you know why I call you a negro? Because it bothers you. Now, address the issue of how your magic negro did not invent anything or STFU, not that you are capable of either.
"To you, idiot wind."
No, you're not. You were clearly addressing a black person. Oh no, are you hallucinating again? Are the pills not working?
"Supercrap has admitted that he can't outdebate a mentally ill, insane racist."
The hallucinations just keep getting worse, don't they? I think it's about time you check into a psychiatric hospital.
I'm fairly certain JCS is NOT black. He's a longtime reader and while I don't recall his personality specifically, I also don't ever recall him admitting or alluding to being black.
If I had to wager a guess from my limited experience with him commenting, I'd say he's a Half-Sigma/SWPL-type HBDer who dislikes proles and the more aggressive race realist conservatives as much as blacks (if not more).
OneSDTV, It really doesn't matter does it? Stupid is as stupid does. He can be whatever he wants on the Internet and no one will ever know. He hasn’t exactly denied it, has he? Just says I’m hallucinating that he is a black person. Tell me, Supercrap, is that an auditory or visual hallucination? I’m assuming visual, since that would be necessary to actually prove you are black. Maybe you can explain how to have a visual hallucination that you are black without actually looking at you? But, whatever he is, OneSDTV, he is a vain, little child, with the maturity level of a teenager. He is incapable of admitting he is wrong and responds with insults instead of facts. He was wrong from the start and kept trying to defend his untenable position with insults, not facts. Just as an edumacated black would do. If, as you believe (but don't know), he is White, then he needs to pull his head out of that place where the sun don't shine and actually research so-called black "inventions". There are none. Even the Supersoaker is a variation on already existing water guns. This is not to demean the entrepreneurial energy of a black that successfully marketed something. It is just another fact.
Every February, our children are held hostage and forced to listen to lies about a black that developed the first traffic light (not a black person), the "real McCoy" (another lie), or how blacks invented the ironing board or the comb. Nope. If he is White he needs to take anything that is used in support of black achievement with a grain of salt. Make that a pound of salt.
I actually admire some blacks. I really respect people like Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams. I have worked with “good” blacks. But, the few out there that actually have redeeming qualities are far outweighed by parasites. And there is no way we can separate the two.
I'm almost certain Jesus Christ Supercop is the same person who used to troll heavily at Roissy's a few years ago as "Tokyo Jesus Fist" and under a few other names. He is apparently white (Finnish).
He's behaved himself here as a legitimate commenter though, not a troll.
"He hasn’t exactly denied it, has he?"
Everyone is black until proven otherwise! A perfectly sensible assumption considering the demographic composition of North America and Europe.
"Tell me, Supercrap, is that an auditory or visual hallucination?"
That's between you and your psychiatrist.
"But, whatever he is, OneSDTV, he is a vain, little child, with the maturity level of a teenager. He is incapable of admitting he is wrong and responds with insults instead of facts."
This coming from a person who's been barely able to type a single sentence without an insult of some sort.
Now if you'll excuse me, I must return to the "hood" and "pimp some hoes" with my "homies" in our "crib." After that we'll enjoy a quiet evening of shooting law enforcement officers in the face in order to "represent." Indeed, it would not be an exaggeration to say that we are "keeping it real."
Your sincerely,
Ice Master G. Shizzle
Yes, monkey boy continues to prove he is of the Cool Hand Luke of argument. Gets the crap beat out of him, until his face is a pulp, until finally the person kicking his butt gives up because he knows he'll have to kill him for this thing to end. And this constitutes a victory for this fool.
Anyway, what I was trying to make you realize, Supercrap, is what you are calling an hallucination is what actual professionals, like myself, would call a delusion. Not only are you stupid, you have a limited vocabulary. And why do you have so much time to post? Are you unemployed, like so many black males? Myself, I'm on a 4-day vacation because I have to use my vacation time up before the end of the year. But, keep it up. Intelligent people need the comedy relief of your ignorant chattering.
"Myself, I'm on a 4-day vacation because I have to use my vacation time up before the end of the year."
Really? I thought truly authentic white people never, ever use up all their vacation?
Salutations, cracker!
I must warn you that I am "keeping it gangsta" to a considerable degree. Therefore I must insist on the cessation of hostilities or I will be forced to "put a cap in your ass." You may think you are "all that," but I assure you that you are most certainly "tripping." I suggest you remove your wack ass from the premises before I gather my crew, because those negroes is really off the chain. And totally wack. They gonna bust your... busta ass. Booya.
Still keeping it real,
OG Ghettobling Superfly
JCS, you could turn the tables on AWG by suppling facts (not revisionist history) to support your claims.
Why haven't you?
If it's because you can't, why on earth do you continue to promote what you know is unsupportable and probably a lie?
Blessings of Africa Bambaataa be upon you, honkey.
As you know, facts are an invention of the white man, meant to keep us brothers down. If I am to keep things real to any degree of realness, I must unfortunately refrain from acting too white.
Still black and proud,
Mac Daddy Icey Ice
Aren't monkey boy's buttons so easy to push? I actually thought OneSTDV would have come in with a "Children, children, settle down" by now. I guess he is as fascinated by train wrecks as anybody else.
My company actually takes away vacation hours if we don't use them. They allow you to carry over personal days to the next year but not vacation time. Fascists!
JCS has gone over to outright mockery of Black argumentation style, and now even I get the joke.
IHBT. Well-played, sir.
This is an interesting blog post, and the comments started off pretty well. Then they degenerated into a petty, boring personal squabble between a few commenters. What a shame. This could have been a thought-provoking discussion.
So does anyone else have anything more substantive to say about OneSTDV's topic of black achievement?
I'm afraid I was mocking something else entirely.
Responding to the original post (not the, ahem, interesting chain of posts that followed):
I've wondered to myself if black/African-heritage people have ever added anything to my life. I am aware of the many ways that black people seem to detract from my life (regular physical menace in public spaces, toxic hostility and messed-up morality plays in public discourse, corrupting the white world's notion of social safety net such that it will soon probably be gone, etc). But - what have they *added* to my life, I wonder?
As the original post pointed out, the "accomplishments" of many black heroes (MLK, Malcomb X, Mandela, Obama (the son and the father), Jesse Jackson, etc) have merely amounted to the transfer zero-sum resources from non-blacks to blacks. I suppose that black people have swept floors I've walked on and driven buses I've ridden on, but I also imagine that black people have, during my life time, used more resources from the American economy as a whole then they have contributed through labor. And I'd be just as happy watching all-white professional sports leagues, even if it meant a slightly slower-running cornerback chasing down a slightly less-trickily-manouvering halfback.
I can however say that the following blacks/African-heritage have indeed added positively to my existence on Earth:
* Lee 'Scratch' Perry, King Tubby, Sly and Robbie, Mad Professor, King Far I, and the rest of the old-school dub-sters
* James Brown, George Clinton, Bootsy Collins, Catfish Collins, Maceo Parker, Nile Rogers, Tony Thompson, and some of the other old-school funk and disco-ters
Unfortunately, those are about the only black/African-heritage people that I can think of, without research, that have created something that white people haven't/didn't, and that has added to my life.
... and I suppose that I might add The Supremes, Smokey Robinson, The Temptations, and some of the other sixties MoTown R&B-Rockers, as well as Bo Diddley, to that list. Still not that long a list, unfortunately ...
Ian said...
"... and I suppose that I might add The Supremes, Smokey Robinson, The Temptations, and some of the other sixties MoTown R&B-Rockers, as well as Bo Diddley, to that list. Still not that long a list, unfortunately ..."
Sorry, Ian, it just got shorter. While Ashford and Simpson wrote some of their songs, the vast majority of Motown hits were written by Tommy Boyce and Bobby Hart, and a couple of Jews whose names escape me, at the moment.
RobertB wrote, "While Ashford and Simpson wrote some of their songs, the vast majority of Motown hits were written by Tommy Boyce and Bobby Hart, and a couple of Jews whose names escape me, at the moment."
Hah. Just like the NCAAP. Suppose that shouldn't surprise me ...
"the vast majority of Motown hits were written by Tommy Boyce and Bobby Hart, and a couple of Jews whose names escape me, at the moment."
Wow! Just caught this one: Talk about 'Rectal Extractions?" HTF do you guys come up with such nonsense? Boyce-n-Hart are great if obscure writes (anyone who could pen the songs for the Monkees first album are tall in my book, but they sure as F didn't write any big (let alone the 'vast majority') of hits for Motown; the only R&B song that comes to mind off the top of my head this instant is a old J-5 song from the early '70s ("Lovers"?).
Yet another pro-white counter to the myth of BRA, right?(LMFAO)
If Whiskey ever pretended online to be an Old Money WASP, he'd end up sounding a lot like RobertB.
(Word verif: clutswat. Sounds like a vaguely smutty spoonerism from a dyslectic.)
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