Our group is superior to other group. But our group has less power than this other group. The other group, fearing an upheaval from our group, engages in surreptitious methods to undermine our group.Now I don't want to reject conspiracy theory type thinking altogether, as I have a good deal of sympathy for "conspiracy-lite". This less nefarious type of collusion isn't entirely conscious; it instead arises from individuals sharing particular ideals and acting upon their independent motivations. These ideals often arise from societal-level cultural phenomenon, meaning these individuals come to their values independently yet simultaneously. Their group efforts then appear indistinguishable to the undiscerning outsider from a conspiracy, though, as noted, the standard definition would not apply.
Amongst the more strident anti-racists, the "White Man" conspiracy theory is quite popular. In addition to structural racism, whites also created crack, AIDS, and prison sentencing all in an effort to keep down minorities, especially blacks. If one excuses blacks for all their personal failings, I suppose such a viewpoint would appear tenable. After all, these individuals blame whites for everything bad in the world, so why not do so for unprotected sex as well?
Yet, they don't stop there. Anti-racists then argue that whites have created civilization entirely on the work of blacks and other minorities. And don't think this type of thinking is exclusive to Internet cranks (guess who will show up in this post's comment thread?). Here's a Berkeley student named Keith Africano (I didn't make that up) on the white man's pilfering of black genius. The context is Berkeley Republicans holding an affirmative action bake sale whereby they charge whites more than minorities, perhaps the most overdone campus protest out there.
If you're going to compare the Bake Sale to Affirmative Action…the only way it would be comparable is if the flour, oven, and all baking materials were stolen from the people that are required to pay the lowest prices. And if the baked goods from all prior bake sales were made for free by the minorities while white students reaped all the profits…which resulted in unequal opportunities to purchase baked goods in the current sale.In other words, blacks and other minorities have done all the work in this country and whites have taken credit for it. In the slave-South, maybe one could get away with such an argument. Blacks did most of the labor, at least on large plantations. Yet even then, the structure of society, including national and local government, the day-to-day organization of schools, churches, and trade, and technological advancements prior to the Industrial Revolution were all pioneered by whites. After the Industrial Revolution, when intellectual fortitude became supplanting physical strength as the most valuable commodity, blacks have contributed essentially nothing. In addition to the working masses, an insignificant percentage of great American achievements were developed by blacks or another minority (oh wait - the Supersoaker and the stop light!). Watt, Ford, the Wright Brothers, Gates, and the Google guys were all white men. Maybe there's a black guy locked away in Steve Jobs' basement giving him all his ideas? If not, the claim that whites steal minority achievements appears rather dubious.
Yet this sort of idiocy persists, with even a Berkeley student championing it (I guarantee he's an example of OneSTDV's Law of Black Intellectualism). While we can surely point to hatred making people crazy, I think something perhaps more sinister is going on here. Due to the fabrication of white privilege, these liberal creationists actually believe that whites can not accomplish anything. It's not only that whites have unfairly succeeded due to their skin color, but they also could not have done so without that advantage. Further, blacks have this dormant potential that whites have not only kept down, but also have used for their own advancement.
And thus we get:
[Note: Upon reading the quote again after writing this post, one could argue the writer was referring to slavery and not current labor. However, I have seen the interpretation I argue against put forth quite often from other individuals. If you can find a more direct quote, please link to it in the comments.]
76 comments:
The truth hurts doesn't it?
This country will soon be majjority moinority with young colored folks setting the standard for culture economy and climate.
White mne will soon see how "superuior" they are.
"White mne will soon see how "superuior" they are."
They certainly will.
@ Anonymous troll:
Serious question:
So you believe that most of the advancements/work currently being done at Apple, Google, Facebook, and Microsoft is completed/developed/initiated by blacks and Hispanics. But somehow, whites and Asians steal public credit for the work of these blacks and Hispanics?
[Why exactly do you always have so many typos in your comments?]
[Why exactly do you always have so many typos in your comments?]
That's the giveaway (that and the use of "colored folks"). It's how we can be sure this is satire.
http://open.salon.com/blog/ronp01/2009/09/27/the_african_heritage_of_ludwig_van_beethoven
Leftist insists Beethoven was black based on very weak circumstantial evidence. The lesson here is that sub-Saharan African literally have no civilization worth speaking about, so leftists have to appropriate the achievements of ethnic Europeans in order to concoct "proof" for their ideology. No, leftists do not feel any shame in being so blatantly deceptive because of their extreme sense of self-righteousness. Hence why leftist arguments are more based on appeals to emotion, complete with unprovable conspiracy theories, than facts or reason.
Amusingly, leftists have attempted to edit Beethoven's wikipedia article to reflect their "Beethoven was actually black" conspiracy. Sadly, the evidence for their conspiracy couldn't even stand up to the wikipedia test. The grand rebuttal leftists used to try to counter opponents of their conspiracy theory was to demand explicit recorded proof that Beethoven was white (detailed genealogical records apparently do not count.)
You need to develop a corrolary to your law of Black intellectualism. One which points out that, in general, Blacks with IQ's somewhat greater than the racial median tend to be quite, well ... weird. I've noticed this for years. Many of the ones who are quite competent in certain fields and well educated (as opposed to your usual NAM "African American Studies" majors) nonetheless subscribe to the most whacked out conspiracy theories imaginable. AND seem to suffer from paranoid personality disorders related, in part, to their view of Black/White relations. Most of the time it hasn't been uneducated working-class Blacks whom I've noticed proffering these theories about stolen Black technology, the Ancient Egyptians, & so on - rather, it's usually been Black professionals. Particularly, those with some STEM competency. Almost invariably, these careerists have been lonely & unhappy people. One common theme, for example, seems to be that their professional coworkers are always out to get them - the workplace intrigue literally never ends with them.
Th works at apple and ushc might ARE being done by colored oflks. Aisnas.
Also the infrastrucure ans aocity ws built on the backs of colored goldks.
I have typos because I am typing fast ans at work.
"Leftist insists Beethoven was black"
Let's not exaggerate. Nobody outside of the weird Afrocentric fringe takes this claim seriously (certainly not "leftists"). Have you ever seen Beethoven included in a program of black music? The leading website on blacks in classical doesn't include him:
http://chevalierdesaintgeorges.homestead.com/Others.html
Plus, nobody disputes there are plenty of great black musicians. Instead of Beethoven, the Afrocentrists should be trying to prove that Newton and Galileo were black to compensate for the lack of black scientists.
Watching television, commercials and movies one can get the impression they're some form of superior being. They are computer geniuses, doctors, great leaders, inventors, artists, super-soldiers, great athletes, police chiefs, and so on. All judges are black, perhaps due to their Solomon-like wisdom.
If a person only stuck to the media they would think blacks were a third of the population. So who is it that's working behind the scenes to showcase blacks in this way? I would guess they wouldn't be black themselves. Blacks latch on to things like this quite readily, even the supposedly middle class ones. Scratch below the surface and you'll find they believe in all kinds of crackpot fantasies. Why anybody white with more than two brain cells would buy into this is a mystery. Oh, and will we ever be allowed not to see Morgan Freeman 24/7 ?
re: One STDV's question: "[Why exactly do you always have so many typos in your comments?"
I suspect the reason is because the commenter is a straw caricature-leftist, in reality coming from a pro-white sympathizer or advocate (admittedly, this is also in part my hope).
Why? The amount of typos seems to be a clumsy attempt to feign ignorance ------ not the result typing too quickly (i mean, i've seen few people type faster than this ex-reporter, and i make plenty of typos, as i go more for immediacy adn real-conversational response-time while blogging, rather than rhetorical sophistry. But the Anonymous commenter-in-question's typos are too much and over the top.
Th works at apple and ushc might ARE being done by colored oflks. Aisnas.
Also the infrastrucure ans aocity ws built on the backs of colored goldks.
"The infrastructure" like our laws, government, economic policies, trade agreements, education system, was built on the backs of minorities? So you think the Founding Fathers stole their ideas from blacks? Same with Adam Smith, Nietzsche, Einstein, Newton, Gauss, etc...?
More specifically: it appears that almost all the billionaire tech nerds, like Gates, Zuckerberg, Google guys, Steve Jobs, Steve Woz, Michael Dell, etc..., are all white guys. Are you suggesting all of them stole their ideas from some Asians that no one has ever heard of?
In general, it seems you're suggesting that almost every great white intellectual had an understudy Asian or black that he stole his ideas from, then publicized those ideas without giving credit to the Asians or blacks that originally came up with the ideas.
Is this what you're suggesting?
I suspect the reason is because the commenter is a straw caricature-leftist, in reality coming from a pro-white sympathizer or advocate (admittedly, this is also in part my hope).
He's been trolling race realists sites for about 6 months now. I highly doubt he's an HBDer engaging in satire. By now, he probably would have admitted it. I honestly think he has some mental deficiency though b/c he just doesn't seem altogether there. But I can't really put my finger on it. Or he's just too (black-) stupid to understand the discourse at this site and can't articulate any reasonable counter-argument.
Protect your children from this crap. Teach them the truth. The sleep of reason produces monsters.
Afro-centrists always say that this or that was built "on their backs". It's as if they had a secret downlow wish to be mounted.
"If a person only stuck to the media they would think blacks were a third of the population."
There was a survey I'm too lazy to find at the moment that found Amricans think that blacks are, indeed, 1/3 of the population, instead of ~13%. Amongst Black Americans the figure was even more ludicrous - 50%, if I'm not mistaken.
Given this sort of ignorance maybe it's not surprising they think they can get away with their antics against the non-Black majority indefinitely.
"who is it that's working behind the scenes to showcase blacks in this way?"
We all know who it is. Let's just leave it at that.
Keep on hating. Your time wil come. The day of justice wil most certailly be vicited on your kids. Even though you losers most probably sont have any.
"your time will come"
Yes it will. You will soon be re-enslaved and your talented tenth will lament the passing of the days when the white man treated you generously. The chains and the whip are coming back, mule.
Was Einstein black? Yes,according to the latest research. His father apparently ahd an affair with a black woman. A child born to the woman,Mathilde LaFluer,was adopted by Einsreins aunt and uncle,who were unable to conceive,as the wife had no vagina.True! He was raised with no knowledge of his Black heritage.
Enslaving Blacks again is a waste of time. The majority are not worth the effort to supervise. This is why farmers import Mexicans to do scut work like de-tasselling corn. Mexicans average pretty dumb, but they actually work.
This leaves two options for Blacks. Africa is probably the nastier of the two, giving the same ultimate result as the other but with more pain and shattered dreams.
...an insignificant percentage of great American achievements were developed by blacks or another minority (oh wait - the Supersoaker and the stop light!).
Black invention myths
Traffic light 1
Traffic light 2
Black America really is in crisis. The talented tenth sometimes try to downplay this by wrongly stating that most blacks are middle class. I understand it's embarrassing for them, but when they do this it does nothing for the other 90%, it just saves their ego.
"Afro-centrists always say that this or that was built 'on their backs'. It's as if they had a secret downlow wish to be mounted."
And it's a tacit admission they weren't on their feet doing any real work.
I just can not seem to understand if blacks are intelligent to invent and create how were they so easily duped by the White man? Is it Whitey Ju Ju?
Outrageous conspiracies of some sort always hold influence, because the idea behind them is appealing to people, depending on their POV.
For instance, it was laughable to me back in the late '90s when I first heard Afro-eccentric claims that "Bethoveen was a black man," and, btw, "Shakespeare was too!
But I bet a lot of people who come to pro-white sites buy into the Alex Jones nonsense re. 9-11 and the simulated moon-landing in 1969.
I, of course, a humble Midwestern pedestrian, don't know for certain the merit behind any of these 'conspiracies,' but depending on who you are and where you're coming from, they're all equally outrageous.
Thanks, Rock Granite, for the links - you beat me to it.
The constant whine regarding "overlooked" black achievements reminds me of Stalinist history (where everything was invented by the Soviets) or the Bulgarian's eternal grievance against the Turk ("If it weren't for the Turkish occupation, we would have been the incubator of the Renaissance!").
The talented tenth sometimes try to downplay this by wrongly stating that most blacks are middle class.
Yeah, Obsidian keeps harping on this contention that "most American blacks are middle class" - and he supports his thesis with lots of wikipedia links, of course.
This is more a testament to the success and efficiency of white-run economies - that they can even bring blacks up to a decent standard of living.
"Scratch below the surface and you'll find they [Middle Class Blacks] believe in all kinds of crackpot fantasies."
Forgot to add: this is precisely why the mainstream "Conservative" approach of winning over the Black middle & elite is doomed. I can't stress this enough - it's always the educated Blacks who believe that, for example, "Black" Ancient Egyptians were the first to invent aircraft. Or that Napoleon shot off the Sphinx's nose so nobody would recognize its "African Features". The loneliness of being within professional/social circles that are 95% White does nothing but feed their paranoid sense of alienation.
Poorer blacks, in my experience, are a lot less likely to be in 24/7"bitter conspiracy theorist mode"; they can be quite kind to Whites in day-to-day interactions. And are a lot less politically motivated than the "elite".
"Our group is superior to other group. But our group has less power than this other group."
Self refuting statement.
If you are superior, why don't you have power?
The answer is that you are not superior, therefore you don't have power.
The guy in that picture is actually an interesting character, who was the beneficiary of English Christian civilization (his name was Equiano and here is his Wiki page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olaudah_Equiano)
In his own autobiography, which influenced Britain to ban the slave trade, he is quite clear that he is grateful for Christianity and for the white man who brought him salvation. It should never be forgotten that heathens around the world owe their salvation to Europeans (and Middle-Easterners) who spread the Gospel around the world.
Of course, the rest of the world should also be grateful for all of the benefits of Western Civilization, the greatest and most nobel civilization the world has ever known.
@ Jeff Singer: Nevertheless, having him on the cover of a European History textbook is outrageous. It's the very same kind of subtle middle finger to Whites that multi-culti's love. Does anyone imagine for a minute that this company would place Cecil Rhodes on the cover of a book about the history of Africa?
IF whites created crack, AIDS, and prison sentencing...
it hasn't worked.
The animals have won to the point of irreversible cultural collapse.
>> blacks and other minorities have done all the work in this country and whites have taken credit for it. In the slave-South, maybe one could get away with such an argument.
Just thinking aloud: if it were true that slaves were such a valuable resource, then the standard of living between slave-owning and non-slave-owning societies would have been noticeable. And yet, it's my impression that there were no noticeable differences in living standards between, say, the North and the South in the U.S.
People making such an argument would have you believe that the difference between slave and non-slave societies is like the difference betweeen one society using shovels and another using backhoes. The gap in productivity between two such societies would be clear.
It would be interesting to know if there were significant differences in per capita GDP between the North and the South.
I wonder if any of the racialists who keep going on about slavery know anything about the history of white servitude in America. I doubt it, since they seem to believe it ran entirely on racial lines. All whites have it good, all blacks have it bad, and whatever you do, don't take any notice of those trailer parks over there.
http://www.mc.cc.md.us/Departments/hpolscrv/whiteser.html
You just have to reconcile yourself to the fact that blacks are insane. Remember EST? That was the controversial self-help movement of the '70's wherein relatively fortunate whites were told they were "assholes" for being needlessly unhappy and not taking responsibility for their own lives. Blacks needed a massive EST-type deprogramming movement beginning somewhere in the '80's. Instead they got the opposite, more and more reinforcement of victimhood and its endless whining privileges. Probably the most relevant indictment of Jews that one could make is that they always managed to exempt blacks from the insights of psychoanalysis, which they were so anxious to apply to everyone else.
You rightistst are DONE.
France just put the left in power as did Denmark.
Hello open borders!
The most fascinating thing about blacks to me is how they'll simultaneously deny some observation or accusation with exactly the conduct that prompted the observation in the first place. For example, on CL's "Rants and Raves," you'll occasionally see somebody decrying black violence or generally uncivil conduct. The black response invariably goes, "that's easy to say on a chatboard MF'er, I'd like to see you say that to my face!" Maybe I'm reading too much in, but this response is so common that it seem completely ingenuous, like the guy has no idea what it means to confirm a stereotype.
"This country will soon be majjority moinority with young colored folks setting the standard for culture economy and climate."
Can't wait to see the GDP. After all, they've been so successful everywhere else they've multiplied right?
"Blacks did most of the labor, at least on large plantations."
So what? That is PHYSICAL labor you are talking about - not intellectual achievements. Horses and mules did most of the "labor" in the fields for centuries, but we certainly don't give them real credit for it. It is the IDEAS behind the physical labor that counts.
"Leftist insists Beethoven was black"
And gays probably insist he was gay. Lesbians say he was a lesbian...no wait...
Oh hell, he was a Mestizo, Black, gay transexual.
"Keep on hating."
Do you believe that looking at history objectively is "hating"?
Do you believe that all human population groups that share very similar genetics are the same as all other groups? No genetic differences that might explain the difference in their achievements?
No cultural differences that do so? Do you understand that genetics and culture are related?
Do you read?
"Due to the fabrication of white privilege, these liberal creationists actually believe that whites can not accomplish anything."
I've spent much time around blacks, in Berkeley as it happens, and their thinking seems to run something like this: "we are bigger and stronger than whites, there's no white man who doesn't outweigh me by 100 pounds whose ass I (we) can't kick, therefore it makes no sense that all great accomplishments could be due primarily to the efforts of people with such small muscles. Furthermore, I'm afraid that if I develop my brain, my muscles, my only current source of pride, might atrophy." Blacks just can't make the leap that intellectual accomplishments follow precisely from the fact that whites could never subdue anything or anyone with their biceps.
"Due to the fabrication of white privilege, these liberal creationists actually believe that whites can not accomplish anything."
Having spent much time around blacks, in Berkeley as it happens, I've concluded their thinking runs something like this: "we are bigger and stronger than whites, there's no white man who doesn't outweigh me by 100 pounds whose ass I (we) can't kick, therefore it makes no sense that all great accomplishments could be due primarily to the efforts of people with such small muscles. Furthermore, I'm afraid that if I develop my brain, my muscles, my only current source of pride, might atrophy." Blacks just can't make the leap that intellectual accomplishments follow precisely from the fact that whites could never subdue anything or anyone with their biceps.
This kind of stuff is silly, but inconsequential. No one takes Afrocentrism seriously...it's a punchline now.
We'll see ho w "awesome" whites are in 2050.
1. People of Color are having babies
2. whites are not.
3. white owmne are increasingly haveing the babies of men of color because they see how easily men of color lick white boys ases.
So long racists!you will not be missed!
"men of color lick white boys ases."
Fag pedo pervert. Ewww.
You're wrong! The blacks take this sh*t VERY SERIOUSLY!
Take someone who is ignorant, then make him Stupid with Lies, and you have the "african-american".
These idiots have NO CULTURE of their own, so they're All too Happy to Steal someone else's Culture.
Beethoven, Hannibal, Shakespeare, and others are all now black to the Urban Ape! They Actually Believe this Sh*t!
They think african is a Race! Anyone even remotely connected with the continent of africa is supposedly black! It would be funny if these idiots had the capacity to learn the Truth, but forget that option!
Whites have to realize they're not dealing with an intelligent rational creature. Talking to them is just a waste of time. Separation is one answer, the other is the Race War Option that the blacks have already embarked upon...
"there's no white man who doesn't outweigh me by 100 pounds whose ass I (we) can't kick"
I've written about this before: given equal size, I'd rather fight a black than a white guy. Black showboat and yell a lot and throw swatting punches. Whites machine-gun pummel you.
One time I got into a road rage situation but didn't make out the driver. So I you a bit nervous when he followed me into a liquor store parking lot. It was a great relief when I saw that the other guy was alone and black, not white.
I got jumped by a black guy at 32 and to my surprise I beat the crap out of him even though we were similar in weight and strength.
Whites are sometimes intimidated by blacks who make a noisy scene if the confrontation. They also hold back because of "anti-racist" messages, which must be done away with.
Black people do have things to be proud of, legitimate accomplishments: Jazz, Blues, some rock musicians, a lot of R&B, the Harlem Renaissance, these are not unimportant things. It is true they did not last forever, but neither did German genius at music. A brief flowering, then gone, but preserved in recordings forever.
These are beautiful things, of great merit, worthy of the admiration of everyone, because they were done by men and women who were great, and truly great, at music.
Creating pretend accomplishments that never happened devalues and degrades and DISHONORS real men and women who created great beauty. It is more than a sin, it is a crime.
Louis Armstrong, Billy Holliday, Nat Cole, Duke Ellington, John Coltrane, Marvin Gaye, Diana Ross, these are great musicians worthy of respect, honor, and admiration. THEY should be honored, because they were great.
But there is ANOTHER side of the coin.
The Daily Telegraph has an article listing Greek citizens rage at needing welfare, and finding it clogged with Turks, Somalians, Ethiopians, and the like. The same is true in Ireland. That will also be true in France and Denmark.
There is no more money. What little cash at hand, as the Euro collapses and brings down the world economy, is sure to go to WHITES FIRST.
Blacks and Hispanics made a permanent bet that they could extort, threaten, cajole, and machine-politics their way to permanent wealth transfers from a shrinking White majority to themselves (Blacks are declining a whole 0.9% the past decade). Like Arnold said, "Big Mistake."
In a massive, global wealth crisis, the votes will be "my group first" and the numerically biggest (Whites) with the most wealth (Whites again) will say ala Cartman, "screw you guys, I'm going home." With their MONEY.
What happens when Mr. EBT has no more money to "swipe, swipe?" He's toast, he starves. And if he riots, the National Guard will shoot his behind dead, because that's where the votes are. Its one thing to riot when times are good and don't rock the boat, we're all making money. Its quite another when its survival time.
To follow on Whiskey's comment, idiot blacks played it all wrong. Fifty years who, they could have worked to keep their numbers small and rep friendly. They would be a protected pet minority, feasting in a land of plenty. With so few blacks around, they'd even be able to date higher quality white women instead of warpigs.
But instead of being in paradise, they are headed toward Alabama 1920. Lol, they fucked it all up for themselves.
men of color lick white boys ases
LOL. Your schtick is even better than RobertB's.
A bit vague, but nevertheless a pretty good example of black logic, wherein a black Chicago TV anchor rails a white columnist for "bias."
Saunders said Feder diminished “the accomplishments of black talent while placing the spotlight on our deficiencies.” Noting it was Black History Month ...
We're really desperate for something, anything, positive. So therefore don't talk about how we're always killing each other (and lately you, too), over trifles, and instead let's concentrate on how well we're doing in the rap category.
"how well we're doing in the rap category."
Until Eminem showed black boys how it's done.
PA, I'd like to relate a story. 1982, a baseball field in Golden Gate Park. A semi-pro game is about to start and the teams are assembling at their respective benches. Sitting next to me is Mike, a 200 lb. white pitcher recently released by the Red Sox. Standing in front of us, swinging a bat, is Kenny, a 170 lb. black guy. Mike and Kenny are both new to the team that day and don't know each other. In front of us, coming down the third base line is opposing centerfielder, a tiny black guy. Despite being famously fleet, having once stolen 90 bases somewhere in the minors, he's moving like an epileptic chicken, toes pointed in and hands splayed out to his sides. (turns out this copied something Rickey Henderson did in the majors). Mike says, to no one in particular, "why is it the fastest guys walk like they're crippled?" Instantly, Kenny wheels around, yells "racist motherfucker!" and collapses Mike's face with one punch. $20K in reconstructive surgery.
What's the point of that story? I was once sucker punched at 19 by a white guy. Shit happens.
Calling a white person "racist" is the same as calling him subhuman, because "racism" is a natural human instinct and when properly governed, a good one.
This topic reminded me of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX_687HwX9c
The Negro American Space Society of Astronauts
That's funny, I thought the point of the story was obvious. Here we have a rather slightly built black guy who with one punch caves in the face of someone 30 lbs. heavier. You claim whites can hold their own in fights with blacks. Neither of us can ever muster enough statistics to prove his view either way, but this incident at least suggests there's something about black physiology that makes one strike all that's necessary. In mitigation, I think you're justified in your criticisms of the old WASP elite (for whom I used to caddy).
Whiskey makes a good point. Blacks do have legitimate accomplishments and this Afrocentric delusional way of thinking just takes away from that. If whites were divided up into ethnic categories they would each have a shorter list of accomplishments.
Isaac Newton was black. He's an ancestor of Cam
That's funny, I thought the point of the story was obvious. Here we have a rather slightly built black guy who with one punch caves in the face of someone 30 lbs. heavier. You claim whites can hold their own in fights with blacks. Neither of us can ever muster enough statistics to prove his view either way, but this incident at least suggests there's something about black physiology that makes one strike all that's necessary.
Your story does not suggest anything of the sort. If "black physiology" had the significant differences which you "suggest", somebody would have noticed by now.
I've been a few fights and have seen a few more. It does not take any unusual physiology to injure a person with one punch. A little woman can break the nose of a six-two two-hundred-pound guy. Being big and muscular does nothing to make your nose any more resistant to breaking.
I've spent much time around blacks, in Berkeley as it happens, and their thinking seems to run something like this: "we are bigger and stronger than whites"
They may be their thinking for all I know, but it's dumb thinking if so. Black man are not in fact "bigger and stronger" than whites". (Pay attention, Whiskey!)
Black women, however, are heavier than white women.
There is some evidence to suggest that though black men have the same muscle mass as white men, they have a heavier skeletal structure. That may be due to denser bones, or to bones of equal density but larger size.
u haters shure be stoopud
us blax be smartur and sexiur then u
also our pinussses be larguuur
annn we be taykin ur uggleeee wite wimmenz 2 make butiful jetblax baybeeez
(File this under the "Parody ... or Self-Parody?" category.)
Time to ban this moby, imo.
"Here we have a rather slightly built black guy who with one punch caves in the face of someone 30 lbs. heavier. You claim whites can hold their own in fights with blacks. Neither of us can ever muster enough statistics to prove his view either way, but this incident at least suggests there's something about black physiology that makes one strike all that's necessary.
Not so fast (go to 1:25):
http://withleather.uproxx.com/2010/02/upset-of-the-decade-bus-fight-67-year-old-man-beats-up-black-guy
Every 'rule' has its stand-out exception.
Some of the comments in this thread remind me of a situation that occurred during my first year of graduate school. This lit-dept. section was run by a T.A. working on her doctoral dissertation; it was seminar on early American lit, though a big part of the syllabus dealt with 'Democracy in America,' which of course is considered one of the founding texts on American sociology. One of the lesser-weighed assignments, though still graded, had the students writing subjective essays on the topic: "Was de Tocqueville a racist?"
I at first thought the topic was a bit of joke, or was a tease leading to more elaborate instructions. But, no, we were told that this was a straight-ahead topical piece, in which we (obviously) were to subjectively take a position and argue our point; and that we were to be graded on how well we did the latter, with no consideration to be given toward how we answered the foundational question ------ only how well we argued the point.
From what I recall, most all the students took the sort-of rote p.c. approach and more or less said 'yeah' and then basically went over key historical factors of that 'racist' era. But I recall during a more extended bit of discussion asking how could we rationally answer such a question without some qualifying context (e.g., what, exactly, was a French aristocrat to think and portray of American blacks while touring through the midwest, south and newly westward expansion while encountering only slaves and probably a few impoverished freemen in agricultural mid-America, etc. I remember, through some of her comments on my paper, and some of her after-the-fact discussion in class re. the assignment how ridiculous it sounded when she sort of applied all these modern, late-20th-century terms and notions in her critique, gong on an animatedly holding forth about 'empowerment' and 'equating blackness' with 'the other,' while 'encoding' the aesthetics of his white-skin-nee 'white-privilege,' while using his supposedly objective critique to 'reify' the 'classist-caste' mode that prevailed at the time and kept those of his ilk atop the social hierarchy, etc., ad-infinitum.
Now, of course, it's easy to laugh at that alone, as exasperating as it is to have to put up with such noise. But what's so often overlooked and therefore that much more comical about such critiques is how they so absentmindedly yet brazenly use all these modern terms, circumstances and denouements to supposedly break down a time and era that has precious nothing to do with the time and period supposedly being examined.
It was if she was asking us to consider why de Tocqueville had a white entourage and no black wife back in Paris and no black mistresses and assistants as he tour and assayed things as they came up here in the states.
A lot of the source to the kind of critical gibberish cited in this post is because the 'critic' in question so often completely overlooks context before raging away...
Well, you know, if it weren't for the Irish, the blacks would have built the rail roads--and they'd still be building them. Denigration of the White Man's way, is denigration of Capitalism. It doesn't matter how much work you do, what matters is is who thought of it in the first place and mustered the capital to do it. Think of Eli Whitney. On a lark, he invented the cotton jin, and then, like magic, a dying system--slavery, was given new life. The Irish may have built a RR or two in the US, but they surely didn't invent the steam engine or the idea of a RR and they most certainly did not muster the capital to build them. All they did was labor at it. But, the Irish and now the Chinese, love to take credit for it, don't they? As if it took any brain power to lift a rail or drive a stake...
So, it may as well be darky's turn to take credit for things they really didn't do as well, don't you think? No different than all of you people making the claim that you're making your bosses "rich", is it?
Damn Irish!
Denigration of the White Man's way, is denigration of Capitalism.
Oh, fuck capitalism. And fuck all the RobertB-like simpletons who think they have even the vaguest understanding of economics.
But then, the list of topics which RobertB knows nothing about is quite extensive.
Poor Anon--
Can't understand why you have no rights when you cannot understand the sanctity of private property in upholding genuine freedom? And you claim I have no knowledge of economics or political philosophy? The first and foremost right is private property--that's why the Founders were so specific about the protection of it. Without, the other so called "rights" cease to have meaning.
You obviously do not know that a masters in Political Science is essentially a degree in political philosophy with an awful lot of history and economics thrown in. Poly-Sci is the grand daddy of all such degrees. The study of economics was born of Political Science. The problem is with you white nationalist socialists is that you want to have your cake and eat it too. Problem is, is the new face of Fascism (that's what it is properly called) doesn't include white faces, it's for non-whites only.
But I digress, this is about other people stealing other people's property--oh wait, that's what socialism is as well.
:-)
Incidentally, as far as I have been able to determine, it was the Irish who were the original grievance committee in America claiming historic and entrenched anti-Irish attitudes on the part of Whites--you know, WASPs. Irish whining predates the Jews, the blacks and the American Indians.
Why did the south lose, when slaves were such a source of value,creativity, and industriousness?
Robert,
I don't know why you're so worried about the Irish, it isn't your problem anymore. Let Rahm Emanuel and Larry Summers deal with them.
In other words, blacks and other minorities have done all the work in this country and whites have taken credit for it. In the slave-South, maybe one could get away with such an argument. Blacks did most of the labor, at least on large plantations.
The ideology of the mule. As in, the black farmer turns to the white landowner and says, "you steal the credit while I do all the work," whereupon the mule pulling the black farmer's plow turns to the black farmer and says, "mothafucka that makes your house my house!"
The answer, of course, is how x does without y. Mules do not make civilizations. Blacks do not make advanced civilizations. Ashkenazis prefer (and are better off) living among Whites than among themselves. Et cetera.
not a hacker said...
Your story makes no sense. Any athletic male weighing 170# could break bones in another male's face.
For some excellent observations on the thinking of the black "intelligentsia" I can't recommend highly enough James May's "An Anatomy of Hate - Hate Speech in the Mainstream - Part 1 - The New Jim Crow. How America's Black Intelligentsia Are Institutionalizing Their Own Brand of Racism." Don't go to black current event websites, he says, expecting to find "context, proportion, fair play or reason."
He did his homework, much like Trevor Loudon at New Zeal respecting the hard left in the U.S.
Don't go to black current event websites, he says, expecting to find "context, proportion, fair play or reason."
Same goes for Blacks (and Ashkenazis, for that matter - the difference being, I'm not sure any but a tiny number of Blacks are even capable) in general. They play to win. The ref's in the closet wrapped up in duct tape.
Chivalry's for the ingroup.
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