Monday, August 29, 2011

Debunking the famous Black Names Study

In an Salon.com article entitled Yes, black people still face discrimination, David Sirota argues that black people face discrimination. Not exactly a novel topic, right. Mr. Sirota concocts his piece around familiar buzzwords like "white privilege" "denialism", "demagogues", and "institutional racism". Anyone else starting to think some computer program writes the entire anti-racist catalog?

In sum, Mr. Sirota asserts discrimination as the only plausible hypothesis given extant racial disparities. This purposefully obtuse conclusion comes from the leftist axiom that all races, even all people, have the same inherent potential, with outcome differences caused only by the evil white man. See his example below concerning black scientists. Mr. Sirota does not even consider any alternative hypothesis; or, perhaps he can't due to the fervency of his liberal beliefs:
In the same week the Oklahoman insinuated that government gives African-Americans a "tremendous advantage," the New York Times reported on data showing black scientists are "markedly less likely" to win government grants than white scientists. A few weeks earlier, the Pew Research Center had reported that "the median wealth of white households is 20 times that of black households."
Conveniently, Mr. Sirota ignores Asian success, a fact that would partly undermine the notion of "white privilege." At the very least, he would have to admit that some factor besides a surreptitiously evil cabal of "institutionally racist" white men underpins success. Amongst his sanctimonious liberal sermonizing, Mr. Sirota does cite a very interesting and seemingly potent study on jobs and race.

A study entitled Are Emily and Greg More Employable than Lakisha and Jamal? A Field Experiment on Labor Market Discrimination, is a favorite amongst race liberals:
You can see it in a 2004 MIT study showing that job-seekers with "white names receive 50 percent more callbacks for interviews" than job seekers with comparable résumés and "African American-sounding names."
I read the study and in the context of leftist race studies, this one is admittedly quite impressive. While the authors still push the discrimination angle quite hard, they do proffer alternative explanations and possible sources of error. Further, the study is well designed with the authors taking the novel approach of actually controlling for variables, something leftist academia often just sort of skips over. Nonetheless, this liberal favorite does have a few problems which I'll discuss in bullets below:

In the real world, the results likely have an almost negligible impact: The study doesn't merely posit discrimination based off a sample of artificial resumes. It contends, and preening media types like Mr. Sirota use it as such, that these results reflect widespread discrimination against blacks in the job market. But how realistic is the study? How many black children born to mothers who would name their children Laquisha, DeShawn, and Marquis are actually as competent as the resumes portray them to be? In other words, black mothers who name their children "ghetto" names don't normally have very astute children. I confidently presume that the job market is bereft of blacks with ghetto names who are also qualified for white collar positions (the posted jobs were in sales, administration, and customer service - not exactly a comprehensive variety of jobs by the way). To test this very quickly, I randomly chose a white collar position, journalism, and looked up a representative group's executive board. The board members of the National Association of Black Journalists have the following names:
Gregory, Errin, Bob, Lisa, Keith, Cindy, Dedrick, A.J., Michelle, Dawn
Here are the names from the board of the National Association of Black Accountants:
Gregory, Shariah, Wayne, Veda, Walter, Ronald, Celia, Tina, W. Delores, Sheila, James, Arica, Monica, Charles, Carriea, Robert, Steven, Kenneth, Nora, Uso, Manuel, Theresa
Extremely few "black" names here. And note that these are black groups, so one wouldn't presume discrimination against ghetto-named people for these Executive Board positions. In essence, the purported effect has no real practical importance because astute white collar blacks with ghetto names are so rare.

From a liberal perspective, it's justified: Liberals constantly tell us that background matters, as in all groups must exhibit a significant level of diversity to function successfully. Of course, leftists use this as an excuse to hire less qualified minorities, never applying the same principle to discriminate in favor of whites. But if blacks and Hispanics are endowed with some unique knowledge given their racial background, then the same can be true of whites. So then, perhaps 50% more of the jobs offered required a white sensibility. For example, maybe the job was in an exclusively white area, relied on cultural knowledge of regional white customs, or involved dealing only with white children. If blacks are often afforded the luxury of dealing with other blacks (e.g. education reformers support blacks teaching black children), then the same freedom should be offered to whites. The job "discrimination" may reflect this liberal idea.

The study does not actually show general anti-black discrimination: The authors of the study actually do spend a considerable amount of effort offering alternative hypotheses. Unfortunately, no media types actually read that far into the study:
These facts suggest that perhaps other models may do a better job at explaining our findings. One simple alternative model is lexicographic search by employers. Employers receive so many resumes that they may use quick heuristics in reading these resumes. One such heuristic could be to simply read no further when they see an African American name. Thus they may never see the skills of African American candidates and this could explain why these skills are not rewarded. This might also to some extent explain the uniformity of discrimination since the screening process (i.e. looking through a large set of resumes) may be quite similar across the variety of jobs we examine.
The employers have limited resources (time) with which to screen the large number of applicants. They likely make a quick run through the resumes and look for the smallest reason to eliminate many of the applicants. A ghetto name, owing to the phenomenon discussed above in regards to white collar blacks, likely eliminates many applicants even before the employers look at the actual qualifications. In other words, the employers immediately see the ghetto name then stereotype the individual not as a black person in general, but as a certain type of black person - one with a ghetto name. So the "discrimination" is not applied to an entire race, but rather to a certain subset of a race, with the stereotype shown above to be quite rational.

Monolithic racial groups and no control group of lower-class whites: Related to the last point, the authors do not have a corresponding control group of whites with distinctively lower-class names. While the authors do broach the notion of social class, they reject it as a possible explanation with unconvincing hand-waving. In total, they conveniently present the ubiquity of names like Jamal and Tyrone as applying all blacks. In doing so within their general discussion social class, they look at race as monoliths instead of understanding the existence of a black "talented tenth" who almost always give their children whiter names. To more accurately test the social class supposition, the authors should have sent out resumes with stereotypically lower-class white names, such as Billy-Bob, Earl, Sharlene, and Crystal. Though not as immediately recognizable as ghetto black names, this would have better measured the effect of social class.

I applaud the study's authors for at least trying, but I believe the points raised above largely undermine the practicality and accuracy of their work. Unfortunately though, we can't expect anything but empty catchphrases like "white privilege" coupled with anti-white antagonism from the likes of Mr. Sirota.

55 comments:

Anonymous said...

"And note that these are black groups, so one wouldn't presume discrimination against ghetto-named people for these Executive Board positions. "

Why not? I'd presume that relatively successful blacks named Gregory and Lisa would indeed discriminate against their ghetto-named counterparts Marqueece and LaQuisha. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Otherwise I agree with everything you've said.

myra said...

I'm waiting for the academic study that asks black people to name their favorite white recording artist. I'm guessing that for every 100 black people interviewed, fewer than 5 will have a white group or singer anywhere in their music collection.

Anonymous said...

I assume you have seen the post-modern (ie, marxist) essay generator?

http://www.elsewhere.org/pomo/

For some entreprenurial nerd reader out there, figure out how to actually make an anti-racism generator.

Then we submit them under false names (stereotypical black ones, of course) to every liberal publication we can think of.

G.L.Piggy said...

The last point about redneck sounding white names is important. It should also be easily replicable. I'd be interested to know why an entrepreneurial academic hasn't done a study like that.

It's the same story; blacks want to play outside the margins - holding on to their unique names, their style, their manners of speech - while receiving status quo respect and acceptance. It just won't happen. A white guy with a neck tattoo or named Billy Bob will not be accepted either.

Anonymous said...

There is a pervasive privilege in this country enjoyed by white people (often without their knowledge).
Example I've encountered in real life:

When I a well meaning white liberal looks at a poor Mixtec women (or insert immigrant/minority) and decides that she should buy the Mixtecs some shoes because the woman is wearing socks and flip flops in cold weather - it never even occurs to the well-meaning liberal that this is white privilage in action.

The white liberal is assuming that the Mixtec would even want to wear shoes?

The un-articulated knee-jerk assumption is - "she doesn't dress like me because she's disadvantaged".. that's white privilage in action..

And when an a conservative decries the "racism" of Affirmative Action, that also relies on an (admittedly different) set of unarticulated assumptions (white privilege). In this case, it's the assumption that white people (like YOU and me) do not benefit from our own societal "affirmative action" every day we get out of bed...


When you seek to eliminate Affirmative Action, you're playing right into Lee Atwater style racism... I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you don't mean to do that, but it doesn't really matter your intentions. The ends are the same.

Anonymous said...

Thank you Mr. Sirota for pushing through all of the bullshit denialism, and writing the truth. My sons have to constantly fight discrimination. They are intelligent, hard-working young men, and yet it is a constant struggle for them to try and gain employment that is commensurate with their experience and education. My oldest son is articulate, well read, and has excellent organizational and managerial skills. After the recession, finding a managerial position was impossible. He finally had to take a job with a cleaning company, cleaning stores and filthy public restrooms.

My second oldest son, served this country honorably for three years in the U.S. Army. He was deployed for 15 months in Iraq and saw action. He achieved the rank of Staff Sargeant before his discharge from the Army. He achieved his Bachelor's Degree in Criminal Justice with a 3.8 average. And still, when he left the Army and came home, the only jobs he could find were as a bouncer in local night clubs. He finally moved out of state and is working a construction job. A veteran, who served his country with honor, and that was all he could find. He is also the only one in our family with health insurance because of his veteran status.

I keep hearing from white people how great it is to be black today. So, where are all these handouts I keep hearing about, all these so-called privileges? What as affirmative action ever done for me or my sons? When will the NAACP sign my rent check? I couldn't get Medicaid insurance for my youngest son or Food Stamps to supplement my income. I was denied! Wake up, white people! You are not oppressed, except maybe by the miitary-industrial complex that you worship. I am so sick of hearing white people spreading the lies that black people are lazy, don't want to work, don't want to be educated, don't want all these wonderful opportunities that are supposedly available to us. It is all lies.

Anonymous said...

how much would you pay me, or would I have to pay you, for you to wake up black tomorrow? What would the payment have been at age 15, knowing what you know now? Would I have to pay you millions of dollars, or would you pay me for the privilege of being black?"

I know the answer.

Anonymous said...

For all those who somehow believe there are great thrills being black and that it somehow gives you great advantages in society, I'd be happy to have you try it for a week. That is, if you could handle a week.

Anonymous said...

Why, exactly, do you think white people hold so many high-level positions in society compared to every other race (especially blacks)? Just hard work, hm? That theory implicitly relies upon the racist idea that an entire culture/race is somehow less hard working, less intelligent, less useful than most white people. Now hold that opinion in your mind for a moment and imagine an employer has a similar thought. Do you think he's going to hire someone from a culture/race that he thinks is primarily lazy? Or do you think he's going to hire the white applicant?

And fyi, there are dozens of other studies proving the same thing. Here's a recent one on housing: http://www.s4.brown.edu/us2010/News/inthenews.PDFs/Jul_Aug.2011/us2010news.2011.08.02.washingtonpost.pdf

The best way to figure out if white privilege still exists...Ask yourself, would I have had a better life if I'd been born black?

Anonymous said...

Part of the reason that part of the population denies that racism still exists is that they define it differently.

The racism that exists today isn't the same as that of the 1950s. Obviously, you can't go around calling African-Americans the n-word or "boy." No one makes the claim that society is overtly racist like this.

Today's racism is subtle. It's a cop unconsciously (or consciously) seeing a black driver as more suspicious than a white driver. It's assuming that the president got into Harvard because he was black. It's seeing a black man in a luxury car and assuming he's either an athlete, a rapper or a drug dealer. It's "clicking" more with a white job applicant because he's like you.

Most white people (like me) don't realize the privilege that they enjoy. If the shoplifting alarm goes off at Wal-Mart when I walk through, I'm invariably waved through. No one questions that I got my job by being well-qualified. Cops don't stop me to ask why I'm walking down the street.

I'm convinced that a great deal of the resentment toward blacks and poor people (which are often treated as synonymous) is assuming that any black person buying a steak is using food stamps. Could that "strapping young buck" have possibly earned the money for his steak? As a white person, it is automatically assumed that I did, despite the majority of food stamp recipients having my complexion. That's a prime example of white privilege.

Of course, there still is the overt racism, but it has to be coded in dog whistles. Welfare recipients, freeloaders, urban poor, etc. are invariably used as stand-ins for the word "black person." It's no accident that they call Obama the "food stamp president" or "affirmative action president." Of the last two presidents, only one can even be argued to have gotten into an Ivy League university on his merits, and he's the black one.

Anonymous said...

Maybe, white privilege should probably be taught in school even (I KNOW I'm gonna get flamed for that)

But it seems to me that the crux of most of the race relation problems we have in this country stem from people not acknowledging or being aware of white privilege..

*show of hands please*?

That's more or less what almost every comment in this thread has really touched on.

It's the raising awareness, the discussions, the organic education that will save this country..

both the marginilized folks and the oppressors..

be part of the solution!

learn.

educate yourself and your family.

we can save the country, and the minorities from the racism, and save whitey =P from hisself in the process.

Is that more clear?

Anonymous said...

How to be an obtuse and oppressive bastard! American style...

1. Beat down and disenfranchise the african-american folks for 400 years.

2. Finally, when the generational poverty, and other atrocities that result from #1 lead to societal problems that plague black americans, blame the societal problems on the black americans!

...

3. Profit!

Anonymous said...

I have heard it for 20 years especially from those seeking gov jobs white males have no chance minorities get all the jobs. Yet the majority of gov workers are white males. Gee that is weird. I have often proposed a solution check the box that says black. Guess what they don't check. Carry a photo of a older black man in your wallet none will be the wiser (my best friend is in fact 1/2 black and we look like sisters and I am white). Not enough, you can take pills and sit under a UV lamp and shave your head and to all the world be black (there is a book about a white man doing this that was highlighted on Oprah). Despite the fact that blacks clearly have all the employment advantages there is not a run on these pills. In my own personal arguments with the oppressed white males it is funny when I make this suggestion the argument ends there. White men like to complain about reverse racism but they don't really want to live the life of a black man (or a white woman for that matter 80's sitcoms excluded).

Anonymous said...

Speaking from my position as a white dude raised in a white suburban neighborhood, I was taught that racism was...

a.) in the distant past

b.) mostly something that happened in the south.

And if my elementary school classroom was the norm, I'm gonna bet many black or Hispanic students who were raised in white suburbs can remember a teacher pointing to them as proof that racism had ended.

It took years before I eventually started to wonder why all the kids in the ghetto a couple miles away were black, while all the kids in my lily white suburb are white. And we never really had any sort of dialogue about that in school, yet it was an incredibly relevant and current sociological problem.

Speaking as a teacher, we are not willing to confront these sorts of issues, perhaps because they don't necessarily lead to easy and pat answers and potentially bring out emotions (guilt, anger, resentment, etc.) that can be hard to regulate. Yet it's essential to have these sorts of dialogues if we can push forward when talking about white privilege and how best to address it.

map said...

Oh lord, you have a troll. Please delete the comments above labeled "anonymous." It is not worth wasting any time addressing this "person."

Oh what the hell.

Listen, stupid. Black people are propped up and coddled in this society well beyond their own civilizational capabilities. The lack of equality you observe is not proof of racism. The level that they've actually achieved is proof of how coddled they are. Look at how disproportionately represented they are in government employment, earning private sector wages for work that white 12-year-olds could do.

"Privileged"...the only privilege I see is another white liberal enjoying her segregated suburban neighborhood and lecturing everybody else on how they should behave. You love these fucking darkies so much? Go lobby your local council to inundate your community with section 8 housing vouchers and low-income housing until half your student population is unruly, ineducable and violent. When you do that, then you can come here and talk about racism and white privilege.

Eat shit and die.

map said...

Oh, and people like you, anonymous, are the reason I am against the war on terror. I don't give a shit if a raghead blows up a bunch of democrats.

Lucille said...

Most white people (like me) don't realize the privilege that they enjoy. If the shoplifting alarm goes off at Wal-Mart when I walk through, I'm invariably waved through. No one questions that I got my job by being well-qualified. Cops don't stop me to ask why I'm walking down the street.

That's nice. When I set off an alarm, I get asked to open my purse or backpack.

Also, the main no-one assumes you're unqualified is because your employer doesn't have a policy trying to maximize the hiring of white people at the expense of competence. Many employers, on the other hand, have an official policy of promoting "diversity" in hiring.

I'm convinced that a great deal of the resentment toward blacks and poor people (which are often treated as synonymous) is assuming that any black person buying a steak is using food stamps.

OK, what on earth are you talking about? Do you think most of us actually care enough to observe whether the person in front of us is paying with a credit card or EBT?

As a white person, it is automatically assumed that I did, despite the majority of food stamp recipients having my complexion. That's a prime example of white privilege.

You are talking about absolute numbers of welfare recipients. Per capita, though, more blacks are on welfare than whites. This is a typical form of anti-racist obfuscation of reality.

Of course, there still is the overt racism, but it has to be coded in dog whistles.

LOL. So what is it, overt or coded?

Maybe, white privilege should probably be taught in school even (I KNOW I'm gonna get flamed for that)

It is taught, at least in higher education.

Yet the majority of gov workers are white males.

Per capita, blacks get far more government jobs than whites, and Obama recently declared that he wants to increase minority hiring in federal positions.

White men like to complain about reverse racism but they don't really want to live the life of a black man (or a white woman for that matter 80's sitcoms excluded).

I don't see what's so bad with the life of a white woman... but that's a topic for another thread.

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Anti-racist ideology is anti-reality. All these naive people talking about white privilege - guess what? We've heard your views before, and we've rejected your ideas.

swingitslow said...

Lucille, may I humbly suggest that you are a moron? You've obviously bought into the venerable leftist plaint that the police stop only blacks. Guess what? I'm a well-dressed white guy and, as soon as I got out of my car and became a walker, I started to get stopped by the cops. They're very reliable in their story. It's always, "there have been some robberies in this area," which, if you have any legal training, you'd know has long been insufficient by itself to justify a pedestrian stop. So these white cops see no problem in consistently violating my 4th amendment rigths despite the fact that I'm white. Please, please grow up and realize that black folks' most cherished possession is their paranoia. Almost always, when the claim is "racism," there's a better explanation.

Lucille said...

Lucille, may I humbly suggest that you are a moron? You've obviously bought into the venerable leftist plaint that the police stop only blacks.

How so? Where did I even come close to agreeing with that?

I don't think you read my comment very carefully, if at all. I didn't come anywhere near to agreeing with the flood of anonymous posters.

Wm Jas said...

It's ironic that both of your black boards included a Gregory, given that Emily and Greg were the "white" names used in the study title.

Wm Jas said...

Also, I think you mean "debunking," not "debuking."

OneSTDV said...

Wow that is perhaps the most "impressive" troll we've ever had here. Two questions:

-Who has the time and willpower to write that much in a comment section of a blog hostile to one's views?

-How did he find this site? (I'm assuming this isn't the "white women love black men" troll we usually have, though I'm not sure.)

Statsquatch said...

Whitey can still engage in a little Bayesian racism.

Nine-of-Diamonds said...

"Oh, and people like you, anonymous, are the reason I am against the war on terror. I don't give a shit if a raghead blows up a bunch of democrats."

Yeah. LOL @ the troll who assumes that, because this is a "Conservative" commentariat, we'll leap to his defense just because his sons fought the Very Bad Tairrsts Over There, so We Don't Have to Fight Them Here. Our "noble military" is turning into a jobs program for every unemployable Tom, Dick, and Shamiqua.

It would be interesting to compare the death toll of 9/11 (2800 give or take) with the number of Americans murdered by "Vibrant Brown Brothers" domestically in the past ten years. My own city's falling apart, & averages about 1 murder every other day in the urban core. All the more reason to burn money in Tikrit & Kabul - right?

Anonymous said...

I also understand that names like Billy Bob Bodine, Zeke, and Adolf are looked at askance.

Prof. Woland

Anonymous said...

G.L. Piggy,

I wrote my post before reading yours. We both hit on Billy Bob.

PW

Rock Granite said...

Anonymous said...

The best way to figure out if white privilege still exists...


Everybody in America has White privilege because everybody in America is privileged to benefit from what White people have done to create this country.

Ask yourself, would I have had a better life if I'd been born black?

Ask yourself would you be better off in Africa or Haiti? Would you be living a better life without all of the things in your life created by and sustained by White people?

Rock Granite said...

Speaking of race and names I think Sirota is a Jewish name.

Any studies available on the disproportionate number of Jews working at Salon. com or in any other areas of American society?

Any explanation for these disparities.

Judeo-racism? Denialism? Maybe?

Chicago said...

They used ghetto names so they could get the results they set out to get with their so-called "study".
It's one more example of dishonest people achieving predetermined results but making it look legitimate on the surface.

ben tillman said...

You are talking about absolute numbers of welfare recipients. Per capita, though, more blacks are on welfare than whites.

It's not just per capita. It's true in absolute numbers as well.

Anonymous said...

None of what you racists say matter.

Because of disparate birth rates People of Color will be the majority of Americans and will thus create programs and policies that are beneficial to humankind.

Anonymous said...

What I would like to hear is whites take reponsibility, as a race, for their continued role in racism.

How many whites have tried in their own lives to broach the racial divide? How many black friends do they have "per capita"? How often do they reach over race lines, letting drop their pre-conceived notions about who black people are, what we do, etc. It's always what black people do, never what white people do to contribute to issues of race.

White folk do not like to discuss race because they do not like to own their degree of responsiblity. It inevitably leads to an association of guilt. After all, who created this mess in the first place, who perpetuates it? And if I hear one more white person talk about how tired they are...really? How tired do you think black folks and other minorities are? Even in the 21st century we still have to contend with racism and prejudice and you're tired? Whites are generally associated with power and oppression (refer to your history books) and you're tired?

We all know what ails the black community EVERYBODY has made a career talking about it. But what ails the white community when it comes to race? Why does even the average white perpetuate issues of prejudice and racism? Why do they consistently refuse blacks (and other minorities) a piece of the American pie (and by this I mean the unspoken understanding that America is a white country, run by whites who hold the true reigns of power, despite a black president). Why not stop cross-examing blacks and start cross examing whites?

Nerdy White Guy said...

"How many whites have tried in their own lives to broach the racial divide? How many black friends do they have "per capita"?"

Jeez, do you even want to have a bunch of white friends? My impression is that most black people don't.

Anonymous said...

To Anon.9:27- Whites NEVER stop interrogating each other and themselves.About everything, not just race.
You're just upset we don't obsess about blacks the way you obsess about us.
As far as triumphalist nonsense about People of Color soon being a majority, black people will see soon enough how great they had it when they were whitey's favorite pet. And how that favored position will end when whitey becomes a minority.
i've worked with working class Mexicans...they hate blacks, particularly young black men.
The Chinese and Koreans I've worked with most definitely do not have a good opinion of blacks.
Hell, I had a roommate in college from the Ivory Coast, and he refused to associate with black Americans. He said they were lazy and he was flummoxed as to why they weren't getting college degrees.
I live in NYC, and I'd be hard pressed to find a single group, including Africans from several different nations, who didn't have a low opinion of blacks in America.
Those other People of Color have barely created a very temporary alliance with blacks to jockey for more scraps from the Federal Government table ( meaning white taxpayers hard earned money ).
The day whites become a minority, I firmly believe many whites will begin to wake up and start asserting our rights as a group.
And then the relatively brief place in the spotlight blacks have enjoyed will be eclipsed by other groups.
If any black person actually believe Mexicans and Asians have any intention of being guilted and shamed the way whites have allowed themselves to be, they are living so deep in fantasy land that there is no hope for them.

map said...

Reading through many of the hostile anonymous comments in this blog, I've come to the conclusion that the real enemy is the white liberal.

The white liberal is able to believe what he believes because he pushes policies that radically increase the cost of living in an all-white community.

What used to be readily available to the average working class person in the 1950's (a segregated community), is now only attainable through high income. Many liberals earn a very high income and thus can afford to live in segregated communities while they lecture the rest of us about racism.

I don't believe one word a liberal says until I see ample proof that their lives are structured in accordance to their own beliefs. And that includes where they live and where they send their kids to school.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for this. The black names study trotted out all the time when it ignores some important points. A white guy and black with identical credentials is not an apples to oranges comparison, since affirmative action makes it more likely that the white credentials are more significant. I guess blacks suffer from credential inflation.

Lucille said...

What I would like to hear is whites take reponsibility, as a race, for their continued role in racism.

If you want to hear self hating, navel-gazing whites, there are lots of whites who act the way you want. But you won't find most of them here.

How often do they reach over race lines, letting drop their pre-conceived notions about who black people are, what we do, etc. It's always what black people do, never what white people do to contribute to issues of race.

What world are you living in, in which whites don't interact socially with ethnic minorities? Perhaps you think it's still 1950, and legal segregation is still in effect.

Lucille said...

The whole problem with all your talk about racism and white privilege is that you are assuming that social problems in minority communities and differences in achievement between ethnic groups stem from white racist oppression. That is something you consider axiomatic, but it's something we consider false.

Anonymous said...

This country was built with the blood sweat bone and sinwof People of Colour.

The least whites can do is help them out when they are crapped on by the white dupremacist power structure.

Lucille said...

"People of color" already get loads of help from society. They are still failures, compared to whites.

Anonymous said...

I grew up on the west coast. My father was from the south and spoke with a southern accent until the day he died. I would regularly watch black people cringe when he spoke, literally. The ironic thing was that my father grew up around blacks and was far more comfortable being around them vs. the rest of whiteopia. If there was a party or social function where there was only one or two black families attending he was always the first person in the room to introduce himself and welcome them.

Prof. Woland

Anonymous said...

"My oldest son is articulate, well read, and has excellent organizational and managerial skills. After the recession, finding a managerial position was impossible. He finally had to take a job with a cleaning company, cleaning stores and filthy public restrooms."


Baker Hughes is hiring.

Just sayin'

Anonymous said...

For all those who somehow believe there are great thrills being black and that it somehow gives you great advantages in society, I'd be happy to have you try it for a week. That is, if you could handle a week.

Could you handle being black in Africa?

Even if being black in America isn't as great as being white in America, it is still better than 99% of blacks in Africa.

Swedish in America is also better than Swedish in Sweden, but only economically and only a little.

Matt said...

The best point is that these aren't 'black' names, but rather names common among a particular subset of black Americans. That there is prejudice against this group I find plausible, but it's largely a justified prejudice. My guess is that if you did a study of African immigrant names vs white names, you'd get a different result.

Anonymous said...

This country was built with the blood sweat bone and sinwof People of Colour.

Slavery was never the entire economy. This country was built by whites, even more so the nations of Europe.

Anonymous said...

Almost of al of Africa's problems aree and were caused by western whites exploiting and pillaging it.

Anonymous said...

Almost of al of Africa's problems aree and were caused by western whites exploiting and pillaging it.

No, only some of them are. But I agree there's one Western policy that's really hurting Africa: foreign aid. Even African economists agree that foreign aid from Western countries is stifling the local economies of sub-Saharan African nations. So I join you in demanding that the West cut off all aid to Africa (with the possible exception of disaster relief).

Thordaddy said...

I always thought the biggest flaw in the study was the lack of identification of the "racist" screener. It is really only the screener that can give evidence of racial discrimination, but since we don't know who the actual people are that accepted and rejected the resumes, what can we possibly learn other than some concocted inference?

Nine-of-Diamonds said...

Almost of al of Africa's problems aree and were caused by western whites exploiting and pillaging it.

Yes, actually. Those horrible colonialist YT's and their mosquito nets, fertilizer, insecticide, & antibiotics. The problem with Africa is that it's full of Africans, who've grown populations beyond the local ability to support them. Largely thanks to colonial-era White civil servants & clergy. The Portuguese model of colonization (trade oriented, coastal, limited colonizer-native interaction) would have served Europe much better than the Anglo-Saxon transformational/Kipling-esque method. The latter has led to unsustainable mega-cities (Lagos, etc) and mass immigration by Africans to the colonies.

Anonymous said...

So I join you in demanding that the West cut off all aid to Africa (with the possible exception of disaster relief).


Nah, keep sending birth control.

K(yle) said...

Every major company in the western hemisphere uses optical character recognition scanners to read resumes and applications.

I can almost guarantee that a lot of ghetto fabulous names get sent to the garbage bin by the software before human eyes ever see it.

Svigor said...

The term "white privilege" should be mocked wherever it is used in earnest. "Black privilege" is the obvious counter.

"White privilege":

No Affirmative Action
No soft quotas
No extra protections from "hate crimes."
No protection from "disparate impact" law
No covering fire from the media or institutions
Systemic culture of double-standards that favor non-whites and disfavor whites.
Even general, non-racially-specific "anti-discrimination" laws only nominally protect you; in reality, you're on your own.
No right to your own communities or neighborhoods ("Chocolate cities" good; "Vanilla cities" bad)
White flight
Sky-high real estate expenses via blockbusting and "churn," because gains from white flight cannot be consolidated
White guilt
White men as the hobgoblins of history (HOLOCAUST!!!, PROGROMS!!!, Slavery, Colonialism, Indian Genocide, etc.); reciprocating is not allowed.
Massive wealth transfer from whites to blacks via taxation
Assumption that success is down to "white privilege"
Your failures are your own; twice as bad because you couldn't even succeed with "white privilege" helping you
Opposing massive demographic engineering (open borders & "integration") against you is not allowed.
Subject to open racial hostility from other races without recrimination.
All your living spaces are fair game for whatever non-white drek decides to squat on them, the world over
No white racial or ethnic advocacy allowed, no matter how closely it mirrors Ashkenazi or non-white racial advocacy.
Ashkenazis get to take all your racial credit, but leave you holding the bag when it's time for "white guilt"
Incompetent non-whites, especially blacks, are your burden
Your ancestors are assumed to be guilty of all sorts of immorality.
Non-whites get to tell you what you're thinking, and presume to know what it's like to walk in your shoes, even as they deny your ability to know what it's like to walk in theirs.
You have no culture, even though whites created the global culture.
Zero right to reciprocity; when a non-white denigrates you or your culture or race, you're supposed to eat it - returning the favor is not allowed.
You have to be the adult, take the high road, etc.
Anything you do that liberals don't like will be scrutinized to see if a racism accusation has even the barest shred of plausibility; if so, you will be called a racist (Tea Party); if not, you'll simply be compared to racists (Al Gore recently on global warming)
Anything too white is "racist" (Tea Party, white churches, etc.).
You may not point out the glaring holes, inconsistencies, and contradictions in The Narrative.
Mocking, denigrating, criticizing or complaining about whites is good
Mocking, denigrating, criticizing or complaining about non-whites is bad
Lauding, praising or glorifying non-whites is good
Lauding, praising or glorifying whites is bad
Non-whites may celebrate dating and marrying within their race openly (I saw Star Jones do this years ago on national television to smiles and applause from the white folks)
Whites may not celebrate dating and marrying within their race.
Non-whites may denigrate non-whites who date or marry outside their race.
Whites may not denigrate whites who date or marry outside their race.
Mixed babies and children are so precious; white kids are nothing to write home about.
Your children inherent every item in this list

In short, "white privilege" means smiling while Ashkenazis & non-whites kick you in the teeth.

Anonymous said...

"Almost of all of Africa's problems aree and were caused by western whites exploiting and pillaging it."

muslims.

Anonymous said...

Amen to you Svigor!

Svigor said...

I forgot insurance rates. I always forget the hidden cost stuff. How much cheaper would Wal-Mart's (retail's in general) stuff be without all the black shoplifting? How much lower would our insurance rates be without all the 85 IQ black drivers? Criminals? Etc., etc., ad infinitum.