The most heartfelt articles by female journalists tend to be demands that social values be overturned in order that, Come the Revolution, the journalist herself will be considered hotter-looking.Yesterday, in a post over at HuffPo, Vivian Diller, Ph.D writes about the "unfortunate" homogeneity of beauty even as recent surveys express a desire for a more "diverse" standard.
Is blonde and bubbly Jennifer Aniston your ideal of beauty? Or is it sultry Angelina Jolie, the woman Brad Pitt seems to favor? What about Serena Williams, America Ferrera or even Betty White?Is 'none of the above' an option?
According to CNN contributor, Alana Dawson, our beauty icons have become more diverse...Aimed at getting people to question the influence of society on female beauty, the show left her asking, "What is Beauty and Who Has It?" She concluded that standards of attractiveness are rapidly changing -- "from blonde to brunette, from fair skinned to deep." Americans, she says, are ready to embrace beauty diversity.The egalitarian paradigm comes forth once again. Everyone is beautiful, of course. I await the day when everyone will be considered tall too. Somehow I imagine these egalitarian zealots will start on that soon enough.
The above bolded statement is confirmed with recent surveys expressing a vastly different conception of beauty than the archetypal California blond. Unfortunately though, the professed desires of this cohort don't help when they actually look in the mirror. Not everyone can pull off big hips like Kim Kardashian.
Allure magazine offered support for this new trend when their 2011 Beauty Survey found "64 percent of all our respondents think women of mixed race represent the epitome of beauty."...In 2011, Allure also announced that Angelina Jolie had replaced Christie Brinkley as the new face of beauty, proclaiming there was "no longer such a thing as an all-American look." Americans, they said, "have branched out beyond the Barbie-doll ideal and embraced something quite different."I surmise that the disconnect here results from what people want to be true and what is actually true. One should understand that the indefatigable hindbrain can weather almost any attack from the prevailing anti-reality zeitgeist; ultimately, as evidenced by the above contradictions, it wins out. No matter how much individuals like Dr. Diller try to convince us to the contrary, everyone knows beauty when they see it (hint: it ain't Precious).
-While 73 percent of women said that a curvier body type is more appealing than it had been in 1991, 85 percent still said they wish their own hips were narrower.
-93 percent of women said the pressure to look young today is greater than ever before.
-In the 1991 beauty survey, men said women were at their most beautiful at age 31. In 2011, that ideal age had been reduced to 28.
-86 percent of men said that they wanted to weigh less as compared to 97 percent of women.
Note here the rather overt calls for more "diversity", ostensibly meaning less white, blond women with blue eyes. Once again, the demonization of whiteness manifests with just the mere fact of looking white representing something nefarious, "corrupt, and subvert". These beauty scholars criticize the traditional Western standard of beauty as oppressive to those not comporting with it. In essence, beautiful white women merely existing justifies moral outrage. Now, one could argue they merely castigate an insular beauty industry and the depictions put forth by them. Yet the article above goes further than that, lamenting too the notion that women feel bad about themselves because they don't look like the standard (white) beauty, as in the statistics above. She concludes with this transparent statement:
the majority said they were eager to see beauty icons who were more like them -- of different color, race, size and age -- a hopeful turn toward diversity.One can only conclude then that using a phrase like a "hopeful turn toward diversity" means that the opposite, typifying the white look, means something negative. (Full disclosure: I have neither blond hair nor blue eyes.)
As for the desperation evident in these types of articles, her whining, artfully obscured with academic rhetoric, won't change much. The profit-hungry porn industry is filled with skinny, big-bosomed white women with bleached blond hair and a significant minority of docile, doe-eyed Asians. Now if men didn't want that, if it didn't "work" for them, why would the porn industry continue pushing it? And one needn't even look towards at the admittedly base porn industry, just open up a women's health magazine filled with angelic looking, fit, young women too. Or flip on the Disney channel. We don't see Precious all over the place because it doesn't sell.
In the end, these harpies can probably only convince mangina nerds to embrace their "curves" (read: rolls, bulges, and cankles) or whatever other physical oddity they possess. For evidence, here's another picture from SI.com showing a woman (I use that term loosely), and a Redskins cheerleader no less, who some peculiar men actually find attractive. I imagine though that these "nice guys" aren't really who these feminists want.
[I want to end this post with a celebrity who does actually epitomize beauty, but I've used Taylor Swift and Dianna Agron too much. Anyone have a good alternative?]
149 comments:
I might get panned for saying this, but I just watched Buffalo'66 tonight for the first time. I quite enjoyed Christina Ricci and her big fat tits in that movie.
The chick pictured in your post is hot. She's a little 'abby' to qualify as my ideal though - I prefer my women wash my laundry in the machine, not on their stomachs.
Doe-eyed Asians?
@ Chuck:
Dude, no. That girl is nasty. Some of the most disgusting implants I've ever seen, no hips, extensive musculature, and those abs. She's like a 14 year-old boy on steroids. And the massively caked-on makeup of a porn star. And that nasty spray tan. Nothing good there.
@ IHTG:
"Doe-eyed": very innocent looking. That's a very prominent stereotype of Asian women. Think of those anime cartoon girls.
French actresses Julie Delpy (blonde) and Irene Jacob (brunette) in earlier roles.
Young Juliette Lewis.
Well, that woman in your post has implants and is probably on thyroid hormone and a weak steroid, like most fitness competitors.
The real way to tell preferences is easy. Look at what little girls are adapted. People prefer blondes with blue eyes. Around the world, whether in Japan or in Africa, the most valued strippers, call girls, and mama-san area always blondes. There is very good reason that blonde is a popular color to bleach your hair.
Dude, no one on this blog needs to be thumbing their nose at that Redskins cheerleader... seriously.
(Except for "Dave" who is quite obviously gay)
Well, she's better looking than me, to be sure... but still, the fake tan and fake boobs are definite negatives.
I await the day when everyone will be considered tall too.
While it's true that being short is a severe detriment to a man's attractiveness, it is not for a woman. Since women by and large are narcissists that write only about things that impact themselves, you will never find a woman writing about how women's beauty standards harm men.
I agree that "diversity" in beauty is stupid.
Blonad white women ARE the feminine idweal because they ARE the most attractive women.
But you white boys should embrace this concept howverer as black men are far and wway condidered the macuiline ideal ( musclular bodies, big penises. confedent, athletic, battle prowess, etc...)
No accounting for taste. There are women of all races who give me boners, and that is really all that matters. The women I find most beautiful are latinas (but generally not mestizo-mexican), greeks, italians and other swarthy brunettes. I don't find white blondes particularly attractive, but they're better than red heads. Full disclosure, I'm blonde haired and blue eyed.
"I might get panned for saying this, but I just watched Buffalo'66 tonight for the first time. I quite enjoyed Christina Ricci and her big fat tits in that movie."
Damns yeah. "The Opposite of Sex" stars Ricci at her scrumptious late-teenager peak, and is best enjoyed as a silent film.
prawnster
Amy Smart is the hottest woman in my opinion (although I wish her nose bridge was a little higher (more Nordic and less Slav):
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005442/
I have a bit of a fetish for White women with strong jaws. Not big chins but I like a wider-set jaw for some reason VS the more typical "feminine" jaw. Of course it should be toned & attached to a nice body. It should not be overly wide though; it's hard for me to express this verbally. Think Tiger Wood's sellout wife.
There are other girls with defined jaws that are not strong yet are still attractive in my mind. When Britney Spears was 19-20, she was about perfect, albeit a little short. And a young Pam Anderson wasn't to bad either.
I have noticed that I prefer women with blue or green eyes. I also like women with light brown hair that could dye their hair blond and still it off.
Young Monica Bellucci?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8wRQbF1Whc
So gorgeous that she never really seemed to fall off the cliff as she got older. A much more gradual decline for her.
http://i.imgur.com/Bpt9a.jpg
I just remembered the movie Eurotrip.
Jessica Boehrs is up there.
Of course there's tons of porn starts which tend to be more attractive than you average actress (both facially and bodily).
Some of the most disgusting implants I've ever seen, no hips, extensive musculature, and those abs.
LOL
One, she does NOT have "extensive musculature". She just has low body fat that make her abs stick out a little, like a lot of female athletes who work out quite a bit. I guess you've never dated a college athlete or gymnast.
She's probably about 110 pounds max and would have trouble even opening a jar of tomato sauce, let alone bench pressing a decent amount of weight. She's got skinny arms - a female body builder would have size/bulk in the shoulders and biceps, with the same type of "V" shape that men have.
It makes sense for women to have tight abs if their job calls for them to show off a bare midriff all the time. Who wants to see a muffin top sticking out from the sides?
In normal clothing she probably looks very thin and petite.
January Jones gets my vote for fresh-faced nordic all-American beauty.
http://www.novafm.com.au/lib/images/article/normal/january-jones-weird-car-crash-165295.jpg
However, it is completely at odds with the bitchy character she played on Mad Men, and her real life feminism and plans to raise her unborn child as a single mother.
This is beauty:
http://i.imgur.com/4LYqi.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/QK4N6.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ARJfu.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/czEyY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Sn9Uq.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/dap1K.jpg
>http://i.imgur.com/Sn9Uq.jpg
And that's the only type of blonde that I like. I hate the fake LA blonde look.
my contention is that the opposition isn't to standards of white beauty, but authentic versus inauthentic -- though i'm still working on the accuracy/specificity of those terms.
most american porn for example DOES feature silicon breasted, bleach blonde, overly tanned women but a lot of men find it difficult to sexualize that kind of "beauty," which doesn't necessarily implicate a beautiful facial structure. (ferdinand blogged about this, and roosh blogged about the inauthentic blonde look over a genuinely beautiful look.)
this is an example of an amateur euro chick, who i think is hotter than most american porn stars (http://sofiastry.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/pornstar2.jpg), because her face is genuinely pretty. she's still blonde and tan, but the artificial quality of both those traits don't stand to either create the illusion of beauty or to suppress her actual beauty.
as for the supposed standards of beauty changing, of course it isn't. angeline jolie is en vogue one year, and jennifer aniston the next, but that all has to do with the current cultural zeitgeist. both women are still beautiful. precious will never be en vogue.
men will mostly fuck anything that's objectively attractive, even if they do profess to having a type or an ideal, so at the end of the day it doesn't have much bearing on anything. if i had to pick say, an exemplar of current beauty, it would be kourtney kardashian. which is obviously oppositional to yours, but that doesn't change the fact a ton of people think she's hot.
as for WHY the swarthy, still white, chicks are en vogue these days, i think it has to do with novelty. the blonde/blue-eyed model was ubiquitous for so many years that i think it became too commercial/sterile for popular tastes. again, that doesn't mean people would ever stop banging a hot blonde, blue eyed chick in favour of an attractive brunette.
i second january jones.
that URL is supposed to end with pornstar2.jpg
I like how the negro who posted here, totally ignored the finer points of the article and then proceeded to relate the tried and true negro argument, "but muh penus is supa big n-shit dogg"
as for WHY the swarthy, still white, chicks are en vogue these days, i think it has to do with novelty. the blonde/blue-eyed model was ubiquitous for so many years that i think it became too commercial/sterile for popular tastes. again, that doesn't mean people would ever stop banging a hot blonde, blue eyed chick in favour of an attractive brunette.
I think this is a good point, but the feminists don't really have brunette vs blond as their goal. They might celebrate that, but they're really after non-white, especially black and indigenous Latina, being glorified as the beauty standard. Oh and did you mean Kim, not Kourtney?
most american porn for example DOES feature silicon breasted, bleach blonde, overly tanned women
Not that I would know or anything, but from what a friend tells me, this type of porn star is largely obsolete and I'm not even sure it was ever really ubiquitous. The Internet, with one plausibly arguing that it represents the ultimate free market, has made "reality porn" extremely popular - homemade porn and "girl off the street" type stars. Only the major companies like Vivid (that's the only one I know) employ those nasty fake boobed, fake tan, fake hair girls.
@ Camlost:
Dude, no one on this blog needs to be thumbing their nose at that Redskins cheerleader... seriously.
She just has low body fat
You know I scoff at Internet commenters who complain about "asymmetric kneecaps", but this girl is disgusting IMO. The implants and stripper look are just nasty.
Women should not have around 5% body fat, as she likely does. That's what I mean when I say "excessive musculature" (bad wording admittedly).
you will never find a woman writing about how women's beauty standards harm men.
The only article I've ever read on this subject (and it's pretty good actually):
http://www.alternet.org/reproductivejustice/151344/wealthy%2C_handsome%2C_strong%2C_packing_endless_hard-ons%3A_the_impossible_ideals_men_are_expected_to_meet/?page=entire
She does pontificate on the same beauty ideal rhetoric though. And notice how it never occurred to her that perhaps men have the same sorts of "problems." (I don't consider them problems really, but I use that term to note the inconsistency.)
As for the author of the HuffPo article, notice the several references to age-related beauty (Betty White, the stat on men preferring 28 year-olds). Well Dr. Diller was actually quite the beauty, a model, back in the day:
http://www.faceitthebook.com/images/gallery/vivian/mom2-1-1.jpg
http://www.faceitthebook.com/gallery_vivian.shtml
Note that she posted her modeling portfolio on her website with no commentary at all, leading one to believe she did so really as a way of saying, "hey look at how hot I used to be."
I'd say Dr. Diller's work is a great example of both Sailer's Law and Roissy doctrine, with the latter noting that attractive women have trouble dealing with losing social status due to their fading looks. Dr. Diller quite obviously had a lot of herself wrapped up in her looks and losing that has likely been difficult.
Only the major companies like Vivid (that's the only one I know) employ those nasty fake boobed, fake tan, fake hair girls.
American porn is skewed by the presence of so many blacks and Hispanics as consumers. They are fond of big asses, big lips and comically exaggerated feminine features.
This is why American porn women are morphing into a composite of what porn producers think that all men want - fried blond hair, collagen lips and giant hips/ass.
Porn star Mya McKay is probably the best example - she started off as a pretty girl-next-door Anne Hathaway type and now she's had ass/lip injections out the wazoo.
In contrast, European porn is still much more natural, especially the softcore stuff. Take a look at anything from Met-Art for an example.
here's another picture from SI.com showing a woman (I use that term loosely), and a Redskins cheerleader no less, who some peculiar men actually find attractive.
I notice that she's not blond, and is tanned dark enough to look like many "women of color".
black men are far and wway condidered the macuiline ideal ( musclular bodies, big penises. confedent, athletic, battle prowess, etc...)
Ha ha. Black men have never been noted for their "battle prowess". Why do you think that they were the first choice for slaves? And it's hard to imagine any black army sweeping out of Africa and overrunning Europe or Asia. The idea verges on the comical.
The other characteristics you attribute to black men are equally off base.
Blonad white women ARE the feminine idweal because they ARE the most attractive women
I really don't think that's true.
Around the world, whether in Japan or in Africa, the most valued strippers, call girls, and mama-san area always blondes.
Some of that is the "freak factor". In a country where every last person has black hair, a woman with blond hair will get a lot of attention on that basis alone, even if she has the face of a bulldog.
There is also something about a woman who gets uber sized breast implants. They are more to attract attention to indulge her ego than to turn on her partner.
Dufu hit the nail on the head. No woman matches Bellucci at her finest and even as she has aged she maintains an attractiveness most women would kill to have at ANY time in their life.
Off topic, Roissy deleted his blog. Sigh.
I have always wondered why men go for blondes, even bleached blondes, even badly bleached blondes.
I totally understand that many blonde women are attractive, but I've wondered why the badly bleached ones are also paid an inordinate amount of attention.
By "badly bleached" I mean that the recurring dye jobs have left the woman's hair brittle with split ends and all sticking up and also left the hair unnaturally gold rather than blonde in color.
I've wondered, therefore, if the reason so many men "prefer blondes" is because they perceive blondes as attainable targets with little investment from them. That is, might men see those women who bleach their hair blonde as women who are more likely to respond to their advances?
Off topic, Roissy deleted his blog. Sigh.
Whoa! I was just there 10 mins ago, and there was a new post. Maybe wordpress deleted it?
Does anybody know the multiple authors story? Was that actually the case there?
"Only the major companies like Vivid (that's the only one I know) employ those nasty fake boobed, fake tan, fake hair girls. "
No, all the mainstream companies in America employ such girls. It's unfortunately universal. Some of the girls actually start their career looking cute, but gradually adopt the typical pornstar look over time.
There is, however, a series of Russian websites that seem to always feature the same 30-40 girls and the same 4 guys (e.g., doubleviewcasting, onlycuties, exclusiveteenporn, etc), and the girls they employ are beautiful -- some of them look almost too cute and innocent looking for porn. No fake tans, fake boobs, tattoos, etc. Mostly natural looking Slavic, Caucasian (from the Caucasus, I mean), and Turkic (Central Asian) women.
There are also the erotica sites like Metart, Femjoy, MPLStudios, etc., which feature women -- many also from the former Soviet Union -- who can genuinely be called genuinely beautiful. This is a common look for those girls: http://i.imgur.com/J68uK.jpg (Safe for work.) The selection is much greater, probably because a greater number of girls are willing to get naked in front of a camera than the number who are willing to have sex on camera.
Then of course, we have the amateur web cam videos that get uploaded to the tube sites, which a lot of guys prefer to professionally produced porn. The girls depicted are often average looking girls in their late teens and early twenties, and despite the low production of such videos, I'd rather watch it than almost anything produced in the San Fernando Valley, California.
I think men go for blondes because often when women go blonde it softens their features and can make them appear prettier.
I am not blonde, but I do have a blonde blue-eyed husband and kids. It is attractive, but so are many other combinations.
My dark-haired, dark-eyed teen boy is currently running from a blue-eyed blonde. She annoys him to no end. Personality matters, too.
Like Shawn above, I've also found Amy Smart to be very appealing over the years. I was just talking about her the other day to someone when the topic of beauty came up:
http://images.buddytv.com/articles/Smith/Images/amy_smart_smith.jpg
I like all sorts of chicks, though. Black girls are always on the lowest run of the ladder, though. Very few of them qualify, and if a few do it's because they have white genes in them.
I like how this female "journalist" lists celebrities she's been told by PR departments are "hot" or "beautiful". I don't know any man in real life who thinks Jennifer Aniston and Angelina Jolie are all that great. If she didn't have her head up her own ass, she'd know that the woman we all REALLY lust for is Julia Roberts!
Sorry for the busted link.
I do extensive photo moderation work on the Internet to make money and I often have to go through hundreds of pictures of Indian gals. Not a one of them is what you would call thin, but they all are very natural (no fake tits, for example) and healthy. Many of them are very beautiful women. I've concluded it's because India simply doesn't tolerate the fag hag look promoted by homosexuals here in the States. Don't discount the effect of fags in the fashion industry here when it comes to what constitutes standards of beauty. Their influence is widespread and odious.
No, I don't think Wordpress deleted his blog, because his Twitter is gone too :c
One,
"Only the major companies like Vivid (that's the only one I know) employ those nasty fake boobed, fake tan, fake hair girls."
Also agree with anon it's pretty universal. It's hard to find a site with a dearth of any of these kinds of women.
"but they're really after non-white, especially black and indigenous Latina, being glorified as the beauty standard. Oh and did you mean Kim, not Kourtney? "
really? non-white? i can't think of any major black, indigenous latina actresses/models that have been pushed the last few years or that the public is consuming? or do you mean, that they ideally wish that to be the beauty standard versus the reality?
even so, most mainstream feminists are white, privileged women, albeit usually unattractive. what would they have to gain by trying to enforce black/indigenous latina women as the ideal? maybe fat or ugly women at large, but...
anyway, i meant kourtney. kim has had too many black dicks in her that i find her near impossible to sexualize. watching the show, she's also really high-maintenance and sterile seeming. i think she's superficially hot, but she has no personal attractiveness value to me.
"angeline jolie is en vogue one year, and jennifer aniston the next, but that all has to do with the current cultural zeitgeist. both women are still beautiful."
This drives me crazy. Jennifer Aniston is not, nor has ever been beautiful. She was cute at best with a very very good body. She is not close to Angelina Jolie. And yes, I am vested in this, as I have been told there is a resemblance. So just agree with me :)
The woman in your picture has a nice body, but a pretty mannish face is is wearing too much make-up which is an instant turn-off. A women should be able to look pretty with no make-up and a ponytail.
As far as the issue of beauty is concerned, biology will trump whatever attempts at subversion our hostile elites dream up. The fact that a very light skinned, large eyed, blue eyed, ski jump nosed, symmetrical white woman (Jolie) is being trumped as some sort of victory for the "diversity" or "self acceptance" movement is indicative of how much of a failure this attempt at re-education is.
The diversity also tends to be less diverse than we think and have VERY anglo features (Halle Barry 75% white, Jessica Alba- 80% white, Eva MEndez).
What is sad is that ugly women had a better chance at happiness in the pre-feminist world for 3 reasons.
1) we were most honest. "Yes, Jane. You are quite plain"
2) We tried to foster feminine qualities in a woman, especially those that could not offer beauty.
3) We looked down on narcissism
So a woman who was plain but was witty, charming, a good housewife, sweet, nurturing and agreeable would most likely be able to land a great guy and have a good life.
Now we lie to ugly girls, tell them it's society's fault they're ugly but ironically also teach them through media that beauty and fame are the most important values. In the meantime, feminists teach women eschew any qualities that could be deemed "sexist."
So feminists have actually robbed ugly girls of the only thing that could entrust a happy and secure life and marriage: their personality.
And how fucking mean and confusing to completely lie to women and lead them towards the totally wrong path.....
flavia,
don't think jen aniston is hot, but i was struggling to think of a blonde, blue-eyed actress of yesteryear. i'm too young.
Re: Angelina Jolie
http://tumblrquote.tumblr.com/post/130692207/last-time-i-saw-a-mouth-like-that-it-had-a-hook
Flavia,
Last time I checked Halle Berry was 50% white not 75% white if that means anything. That woman had tons of surgery.
While I do think there is quite a bit of diversity in what guys will find attractive, I also am convinced that there is a normal distribution of attractiveness, and that the tall, leggy, Nordic blonde woman is the mean.
To the anon commenter who suggested that black men are more attractive than white ones, I suppose that is true to a certain extent in the sense that black men tend to have more obvious masculine characteristics than men of other races (the bit about penis size is baloney tho, sorry to burst your bubble). Just like Asian women tend to possess more feminine characteristics than do women of other races.
But there is a limit here, as the preference for women of one's same race I think exerts a more powerful influence. Were it not, then "Yellow fever" would mean that white women and especially black women would never have a chance.
Anyways, these women complain about standards of beauty. Really, they need to bitch to their sisters and homosexual men, who are the ones setting the standards.
Last, I was thinking that the porn industry isn't a good barometer of what men find attractive. For it seems that the vast majority of leading women are not the big-busted, stuffed-and-mounted types.
Dr. Diller is not just operating under Sailer's Law of Female Journalism but also the well-known Law of Jewish Perfidy, as she would glorify 'the other' to soften the host (whites) to the presence of parasites. Generally speaking, Ashkenazi women, with their 42% average of European racial admixture, will not compare favorably with pure white women of any distinction. So, there will be a push from jews to canonize these "exotic" mixed-race faces, which boosts their own stock but also degrades that of archetype white women.
The Electric Jew hasn't yet ruined the Mexican soap operas, whose casts are essentially Spanish-speaking Nordics. I'd imagine you could quickly find some hot chick pics in those archives.
re: black men. while i agree that black men possess more superficially high-testosterone characteristics and features, one of the primary reasons i'm more attracted to white men is that they are just more intelligent, and more masculine to me, in that sense. i've always found white men have a good balance of testosterone/intelligence/attractiveness over other racial groups.
black men to me have always seemed kind of ineffectual and silly. the more gangster, the more silly and absurd. like imagining some black guy getting up in the morning and tying a do-rag on his head is a pretty hilarious thought.
"Last time I checked Halle Berry was 50% white not 75% white if that means anything. That woman had tons of surgery."
To look more beautiful.
"black men to me have always seemed kind of ineffectual and silly. the more gangster, the more silly and absurd. like imagining some black guy getting up in the morning and tying a do-rag on his head is a pretty hilarious thought."
OMG get out of my head. I always chuckle whenever I see some pants around the knees type of thug sipping on a Slurpee or eating an ice cream come. How absurd. In the words of Roissy (RIP) "contrast is king."
Maybe in the future, the government will require beautiful people wear masks, so no one looks more attractive than anyone else, as in Kurt Vonnegut's "Harrison Bergeron."
Men will expand their ideal of beauty the day short bald-guys with lousy jobs make her wet (or dream of marriage).
black men to me have always seemed kind of ineffectual and silly. the more gangster, the more silly and absurd. like imagining some black guy getting up in the morning and tying a do-rag on his head is a pretty hilarious thought.
And what's funniest is when regular black males decide to start putting on airs in order to act "hard".
I went to elementary and middle school with a kid named Carl who was the nerdiest Al Roker black man you could imagine - he was on the quiz bowl and math teams with me. If you remember the character Raj from the 70's TV show "What's Happenin'?" this is a close approximation of his personality.
Suddenly the guy moves to Washington, DC with his father for a few years. (his parents were divorced) Three years later he comes back with a rack full of gold teeth, a crotch-holding pimp strut, ridiculously oversized hats/pants and won't look you in the eye anymore. Every response to you is "yeeeee-uh".
Upon seeing him for the first time after his sojourn I busted a gut laughing and he did not appreciate it, to say the least.
Here is a hot girl.
Julie Delpy is hot too.
Am I the only one who prefers a stronger jawline of, say Martha MacCallum over a dainty jawline (arguably more feminine) to that of, say the late Princess Dianna?
Comments?
Martha MacCallum:
http://www.google.com/search?q=martha+maccallum&hl=en&safe=off&sa=X&biw=1024&bih=677&prmd=ivnsofd&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&ei=gLMxTsanDamLsQKT67mNCw&ved=0CC4QsAQ
Princess Diana: http://www.google.com/search?q=princess+diana&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1024&bih=677
Anonymous wrote:
"But you white boys should embrace this concept howverer as black men are far and wway condidered the macuiline ideal ( musclular bodies, big penises. confedent, athletic, battle prowess, etc...)"
The truth is women still find intelligence to be a masculine trait (as well as as the correlatives: financial and professional success).
So your big-penis points are more than offset by your lesser average intelligence. For example, I'm guessing many of the white women on here would find your inability to correctly spell a simple word like "confident" a major turn off.
Just remember that diversity doesn't include Asian women. Those submissive sluts are only for abusive man children who are afraid of strong, confident and healthy-looking women like that girl from Precious. Diversity is whatever we want it to be!
I know it infuriates the feminazis and multiculturalists, but I don't care. I still find young blondes the most attractive.
Google "Molly Kucera" for a fine example. Oh, to be young again!
Unamused,
Audrey Hepburn? Are you kidding?
The truly hot not only need to be beautiful but must also give off a deeply sexual vibe.
Hepburn was a perfect little china doll. Pretty, but with no vibe that lets me imagine making nasty dirty love to her.
And even if I could, I'd be afraid I might break her.
I quite enjoyed Christina Ricci and her big fat tits
Ricci at her scrumptious late-teenager peak
I never really got that. Ricci, although a good actress, has a weird-looking, ill-proportioned face that kinda creeps me out. There's a reason she was cast in those Addams Family movies.
"as for WHY the swarthy, still white, chicks are en vogue these days, i think it has to do with novelty. the blonde/blue-eyed model was ubiquitous for so many years that i think it became too commercial/sterile for popular tastes. again, that doesn't mean people would ever stop banging a hot blonde, blue eyed chick in favour of an attractive brunette."
I actually think a significant minority of men prefer swarthier white women to the blondes. Strangely enough it often happens to be the blonder men who are attracted to white brunettes. From my experience, at least. The darker haired majority of men nearly always prefer the fair-haired ladies. Blond hair catches the eye more unless you're used to it you're entire life, I guess.
Ashley Judd in her prime. Ooo-la-la!
Jaime Pressly in her prime.
Barbara Eden in her prime.
Michelle Phillips in her prime (the Mamas and Papas days).
Susan Dey is *still* beautiful.
Here's a fairly obscure beauty. She's not blonde but ooofa! what a body and what a smile.
Barbara Nedeljakova
I can't find an online picture that does her justice. But she was sublime in the otherwise abysmal movie Hostel.
while i agree that black men possess more superficially high-testosterone characteristics and features
This is one of the "Urban Myths of the Blogopshere". In fact there is zero scientific evidence to support the idea that black men have greater than average testosterone or are more muscled than other men.
Lea Seydoux, France's answer to Scarlett Johansson.
Men are genetically programed to find the average 16-28 yr/old human female sexually attractive, regardless of stuff like hair color or even skin color. Let's not pretend otherwise.
"Men are genetically programed to find the average 16-28 yr/old human female sexually attractive, regardless of stuff like hair color or even skin color."
Assuming she's reasonably fit and has no obvious deformities, yes.
But even within that grouping, there's a range of attractiveness.
Not all females are created equal. Deal with it.
Men are genetically programed to find the average 16-28 yr/old human female sexually attractive, regardless of stuff like hair color or even skin color.
Yes !!
And political correctness played no part in elevating this to Supermodel status:
http://www.post-gazette.com/images4/20070423ho_alekwek_230.jpg
But even within that grouping, there's a range of attractiveness.
But not one which is terribly important. It's not like all the men are holding out for Monica Bellucci and remaining chaste if they can't get her. In real life as opposed to fantasy life, womens attractivness is just not that big a deal.
Deal with it.
"Supermodel status" generally has nothing to do with being sexually attractive. I don't know why anyone would think otherwise.
See, this is how you get lots of people commenting on your blog: Ask your readers about hot chicks.
even within that grouping, there's a range of attractiveness.
Not one which everybody agrees on. Your 10 could be my 7, and vice versa. You're implying that there is some universally agreed on and impartial scale of attractiveness.
"Ugly Girls Want Love Too"
Yes, of course. That is what ugly guys are for.
Life is a competition. Through that process folks can find mates of similar status.
@OneSTDV: Good points about anti-white politicking & beauty standards - Alana Dawson's "dibersidy" agitprop makes me laugh.
What gets to me is your comments about that girl in the pic. No offense but you're getting kind of close to "Internet Male Syndrome". Yes, the implants are nasty but she's better than what 90% of suburban men can pull.
Too much internet beauty skews our perspectives. Hamburgers, sedentary living, early puberty, & hormones have hit women hard. A good 60% of the women where I live have either obese or high-testosterone, mannish builds (think Michelle, the First Wookie. Whom Maxim insists is one of America's hottest women).
Being born during the "baby bust" 1980's is another problem - with fewer twentysomething females to begin with, unattractiveness has an even greater impact.
Just for fun, go to
http://modernitysucks.wordpress.com/
and compare the ladies of yesteryear with the women you see nowadays.
You're implying that there is some universally agreed on and impartial scale of attractiveness.
I'm not implying any such thing. You're reading things into what I said.
My point was simply that, even after you narrow the field down to reasonably fit/healthy women in the 16-28 yo range, most men will still find some of them more attractive than others. I didn't say they'd always agree on the sorting order, but I am saying that almost all of us will sort them in some kind of order.
The feminists, on the other hand, would have us believe that they're all equally attractive, and that's simply not the case.
I agree that very few guys hold out for whatever they would consider a "10". But that doesn't mean they don't have some idea of what a 10 looks like.
To get back to point raised in the original article, it seems to me that the feminist journalists in question don't want men to merely *settle* for women like them, they want us to fantasize about them too.
I've read studies and watched a show maybe it was Discover Channel that there are universal ideas of attractivness. Attractive people are the most symetrical indicating health. They had a few calculation that related to facial attractivness and waist to hip to bust ratios that indicated a healthy there for attractive body.
The universal for attractive people is simple symetrical features, a good symetrical body with "correct" ratios. Youth, clear skin, etc were all other things topping the list for the attractiveness study.
I have also read that blonde hair and blue eyes being recessive traits seem to lighten features give an indication of youth and health and enable people with those triats to be desirable for matting.
I myself like all kinds of features and body types. I find a lot of different looks to be attractive.
Seems universally no matter what these harpies try to push that symetrical, well proportioned, blonde haired, blue eyed females are universally the most attractive.
I've traveled a lot and any where I have been in the world blondes are the most desired by most men of any culture.
MuayTyson
"Audrey Hepburn? Are you kidding?"
NO SIR AM NOT
"Hepburn was a perfect little china doll. ... I'd be afraid I might break her."
well i meant she would be hot to CUDDLE WITH
obv
OBV
Attractive people are the most symetrical indicating health. They had a few calculation that related to facial attractivness and waist to hip to bust ratios that indicated a healthy there for attractive body.
I don't even have a bust. Can I be attractive?
The farcical thing about these debates on "attractiveness" is that they always boil down to guys (for the most part) arguing about what they find attractive in women.
I've traveled a lot and any where I have been in the world blondes are the most desired by most men of any culture.
Outside of the white countries, blond women are desired in the same way Mercedes automobiles are - as symbols of wealth and status. That's not quite the same thing as sexual desire.
The farcical thing about these debates on "attractiveness" is that they always boil down to guys (for the most part) arguing about what they find attractive in women.
Riiiiiight. Everyone knows that the only thing that matters is whether *she* thinks she's attractive.
Of course it boils down to what the attractees find attractive!
I don't even have a bust. Can I be attractive?
Nope. Sorry. But you can make up for it by being a very nice person. Will you settle for that?
My impression is that more than half of the time a man and woman end up in bed, it's the woman who pursued the man.
Or maybe that's just me.
Of course it boils down to what the attractees find attractive!
I'm starting to understand why you have trouble getting laid.
Muay Tyson, I recall a study (before internet days, can't find a reference to it) that concluded there are indeed objective (or at least universal, or as near as dammit) standards of beauty. They studied eye movements in infants, on the hypothesis that babies looked longer at faces that they found attractive. So, no sex/cultural influences.
The babies (of all races) agreed that the most attractive faces were heart-shaped, light-complexioned faces with wide-set eyes, a few other criteria I don't recall now.
Notwithstanding the fringe with weird sexual preferences (I've heard that some men like black women with big butts, and some pay prostitutes to urinate on them), most men will continue to be attracted to beautiful women. These will continue to look like White women.
I'm starting to understand why you have trouble getting laid.
If I don't find you attractive, why should I think it's a problem (or to use your words, "trouble") if you're not having sex with me?
Not getting something I didn't want in the first place is hardly a problem as far as I'm concerned. Maybe it's a problem for *you* (and the other feminists pining to be considered desirable) but it certainly isn't for me.
My impression is that more than half of the time a man and woman end up in bed, it's the woman who pursued the man.
All that means is that she's doing the attracting and he's being attracted.
But if her bait isn't what the fish are biting, she'll go home with an empty boat.
Attractive = the bait that works.
Men are genetically programed to find the average 16-28 yr/old human female sexually attractive, regardless of stuff like hair color or even skin color.
Yes !!
And political correctness played no part in elevating this to Supermodel status:
Have to disagree with "regardless of skin color."
While I've found some Asian and even some light-skinned black celebrities and models attractive (Alicia Keys comes to mind, though like Halle Berry and Beyonce, she had facial surgery), I have almost never been attracted to a non-white girl in real life. I can only recall a few times this has occurred.
"My impression is that more than half of the time a man and woman end up in bed, it's the woman who pursued the man."
All that means is that she's doing the attracting and he's being attracted.
So, if the woman pursues the man, she's doing the attracting?
And if the man pursues the women, she's still doing the attracting?
I don't know how attractive you are, but you don't seem very bright.
I have almost never been attracted to a non-white girl in real life.
I'm a white guy and have had sex with a number of non-white women.
If I don't find you attractive, why should I think it's a problem (or to use your words, "trouble") if you're not having sex with me?
I'm a guy, so I don't think it's a problem or "trouble" if we're not having sex.
But if you think that having sex is all about you being attracted to a woman and not about her being attracted to you, you have a lot to learn about sex.
I have almost never been attracted to a non-white girl in real life.
I'm a white guy and have had sex with a number of non-white women.
In my circle of friends growing up (especially in HS), non-white girls were basically ignored. And if someone did hook up with a non-white girl, most of my friends would say it didn't "count." And if a non-white girl was considered attractive (I can only think of one or two times this happened), everyone would say something like, "if only she were white" or "if only we could paint over her skin."
Note that I grew up in the epitome of middle-class suburbia in a somewhat diverse environment. There was absolutely no anti-minority bias at all.
Is blonde and bubbly Jennifer Aniston your ideal of beauty? Or is it sultry Angelina Jolie,
None of them were ever the American man's ideal of beauty because A-List Hollywood actresses aren't attractive. You can find better looking women walking through the mall or getting drinks at the top Florida beach spots than you will on film.
I suspect the reason A-List Hollywood actresses are less attractive is because of self selection. To get on the Hollywood A-List, actresses have to be relentless self promoters. The drive for self promotion needs to be fueled by a good amount of aggression and competitiveness and this competition to market oneself naturally requires a more "masculinized" woman higher than average (for women) testosterone.
The end result is Hollywood A-List actresses deviate from men's ideal of beauty.
B-List actresses, on the other hand, tend to be smoking hot because they are too feminine to claw their way to the top.
And if a non-white girl was considered attractive (I can only think of one or two times this happened),
I think some Indian girls can be hot if they have tits and ass (even if they're dark skinned) but otherwise I've never really been attracted to non-white women. East Asian girls all look exactly the same.
I think some Indian girls can be hot if they have tits and ass (even if they're dark skinned) but otherwise I've never really been attracted to non-white women. East Asian girls all look exactly the same.
Ironic because I've always thought every Indian (dot, not feather) girl has the exact same face.
everyone would say something like, "if only she were white" or "if only we could paint over her skin."
There was absolutely no anti-minority bias at all.
Ho kay! Glad we cleared that up!
Absolutely
No anti-minority bias
At all!
I suspect the reason A-List Hollywood actresses are less attractive is because of self selection. To get on the Hollywood A-List, actresses have to be relentless self promoters.
Here's a whacky idea - maybe A-list Hollywood actresses have to know how to act? And maybe that is a more important attribute for them than looking good posing for the camera?
Jessica Biel is a fine example. She's a pretty thing, and has no acting ability whatsoever. Hence her B-list status.
Ironic because I've always thought every Indian (dot, not feather) girl has the exact same face.
IMO they don't seem to be as uniform in appearance as East Asians and I've seen a number of Indian girls who have developed bodies and are cute.
You're implying that there is some universally agreed on and impartial scale of attractiveness.
But there is, in a sense. In the universal scale, Scarlett Johansson will always be rated high. She may not be your 10, but only a liar or a nut rates her a 5.
If OneSDTV thinks it's funny in a pathetic way to see fugly feminists journalists pretend they ought be a catch as any other woman then so too should it be seen as pathetic is the nerdy losers guys complaining that women don't find them attractive and it's a feminist conspiracy than simply a fact that they lack any real masculinity. Nerdy-loser guys and fugly feminists should be dating one another or go celibate as both groups have a case of Unwarranted Self Importance.
"Ho kay! Glad we cleared that up!
Absolutely
No anti-minority bias
At all!"
Oh, I'm sorry - did that anecdote set your lip a-quivering? Is it "RAYCIS" not to subscribe to Alana Dawson's pretty lie about "race neutral" attraction?
Pretty funny how "Black is Beautiful" NAM's love to moan about white women (they smell like "wet dog", they're "nasty", etc) - and then act personally offended when white men don't find nonwhite women attractive.
She's like a 14 year-old boy on steroids.
It's funny, but this "NAM" is always amazed by guy at blogs like these rave on and on about the latest WASP models ----- who to me so often look more like aquiline-featured pre-pubescent boys.
FWIW, I think W.European woman are nice looing, but i don't exalt them and believe that reaction is genuine and biological more than a case of me projecting politically into my loins, etc; I mean, isn't it common for even white men to like white chicks, but those who're a bit 'exotic,' i.e., mixed with Asian or mediterreanean or even African admixture; I work in a public school system and see white boys all the time lusting after black girls; I think it's a reaction to messages from the pop-culture, much of thetime ----- yet said messages seem to connect with something that's genuinely biological as well.
RE. my last comment:
To wit: "But there is, in a sense. In the universal scale, Scarlett Johansson will always be rated high. She may not be your 10, but only a liar or a nut rates her a 5."
NOT! To me, she's a dime-a-dozen pleasant-looking NY Jewish girl; a 'type' you've seen a thousand times but pleasant nonetheless.
I know it may sound a bit contrived, along the lines of the article featured and laughed-over in this post, but I do find it a bit silly to analyze/measure/deconstruct&atomize the features of a random woman in a picture. I think more in general types of hygiene, fitness and a few core prefrences and from there, the personality and the chemistry obtained between me and said female is what fills in the rest. in other words: imagine a pair of beautiful female identical twins; for me, one could be divine paramour forevermore, while the other could be someone I don't connect with at all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXEupeEMwyw
"...this "NAM" is...work[s] in a public school system...."
No kidding?
Flavia,
Ali also said black men who go with white women shoot be shot.
And that's not even the worst (by liberal standards) he ever said or believed.
And yet he's a beloved figure on the left.
If Ali's popularity isn't evidence that anti-racism is simply anti-whitism, I don't know what is.
Nine-of-Diamonds said...
You're dumb as a box of hammers.
OneSTDV said:
There was absolutely no anti-minority bias at all. <
.. and he also said:
everyone would say something like, "if only she were white" or "if only we could paint over her skin."
.. which suggests that One does not know the meanings of words in the English language. And neither do you. Feeling's have fuck all to do with it.
"Feeling's have fuck all to do with it."
LOLZERS!! Glad I could help!
Dat debbil YT and his 'postrafees! Dat be RAYSUS! You be dumb as a bag of h'a'm'm'e'r's'!
Yep, I think we hit the nail on the head with our bag of hammers. Again, the bitterness over who does and doesn't find them attractive is hilarious, given their dislike for Whites. Something like half of all blacks' internet discussions on white females boil down to "smell like dogs", "they have thin lips, like monkeys", and so on. Odd, considering how many black men I see with bleached-blonde orcas in these parts. But maybe my state's unique. Hmmm....
America Ferrara would be considered a somewhat attractive healthy girl if perhaps she happened to be a neighbor, but as far as becoming the new beauty standard, thanks, but no thanks. I don't understand how a heternormative male of any race could find the tranny looking William's sisters attractive.
The trend in choosing professional cheerleaders is toward the slim, muscular, and desexualized women that still have nice features. The classic curvy, soft, and hyper-feminine pom pom girls are now a rarity. Sports fans are considered slobs that will look at anything, so these choices more and more are made my power-tripping women, often with an agenda similiar to that of the authoress of the piece in the Huffington Post.
@One
"Note that I grew up in the epitome of middle-class suburbia in a somewhat diverse environment. There was absolutely no anti-minority bias at all."
If there was no anit-minority bias, than why did it not "count" when you hooked up with non-white girls?
"No anti-minority bias" means there wasn't any animus towards non-whites. No one would say, "don't talk to the chink" or not let a (middle-class) black schoolmate into their house.
But romantically, it was a different story. Only white girls were considered something worthwhile to pursue. Perhaps its was status as well as being only attracted to white girls (e.g. nerdy white guys can ONLY attract Asian girls), but that's the way it was.
And I'd argue that's how it is even in the more multicultural larger society. Any guy of any race will date a white girl if he has the chance. And you almost never see a high status white guy dating a non-white girl, never.
""No anti-minority bias" means there wasn't any animus towards non-whites. No one would say, "don't talk to the chink" or not let a (middle-class) black schoolmate into their house."
Watch it. Disagreeing with Alana Dawson is "hateful".
As ignorant as many women are about what's attractive to men, her rantings take the cake.
Given that, according to many progressives, there really is "no such thing as race", it's understandable that racial preference re: sex must be portrayed as "defective". Something that needs to be pathologized, and re-educated away, for the greater good of society.
And I can vouch for interracial dating being rare, even though I graduated from a liberal private high school during the pee cee 2000's. With few exceptions we all stuck to the same race. Doubtless due to our suppressed KKK-ish tendencies, I imagine.
And you almost never see a high status white guy dating a non-white girl, never.
I see some high-status white guys marrying upper-middle-class Asian women. (Rupert Murdoch's current wife is Asian, for example.) But except for educated, middle-class Asian women, I think your rule holds true. I can't think of any high-status white guys outside of Hollywood and the pop music industry who are married to black women.
Speaking of hot non-white girls, I probably only really fancy one non-white celebrity: Selena Gomez. She is absolutely stunning.
"Ugly Girls Want Love Too"
...but they gotta pay.
If women are so strong and independent then why should they care what men consider to be beautiful or ugly?
yikes!
Could it be that contrary to feminist claptrap women are not independent, but in fact they rely on men a whole lot (especially when there are bills to be paid). That's why feminists are so obsessed with telling us men we have to consider the ugly to be pretty.
E
"No anti-minority bias" means there wasn't any animus towards non-whites."
I get it. People weren't openly racist. But "no bias at all" means that everyone is treated as their merit deserves. It means the actual absence of bias. Not just that the bias was kept hidden.
"Perhaps its was status as well as being only attracted to white girls"
You weren't "only" attracted to white girls. You were all hooking up with non-white girls, like people sometimes do. They just didn't "count." So, it was actually JUST status.
And I think it's kind of sad to let "status" determine who you hook up with. Especially in high school! If someone wanted to date a non-white girl, but didn't, because of "status" or whatever, don't you think he'd eventually regret it?
"No anti-minority bias" means there wasn't any animus towards non-whites.
People who say things like "if only she were white" or "if only we could paint over her skin" do have "anti-minority bias".
And I'd argue that's how it is even in the more multicultural larger society. Any guy of any race will date a white girl if he has the chance.
Nope. In NYC an Asian girlfriend is what the all the white guys want.
I can't think of any high-status white guys outside of Hollywood and the pop music industry who are married to black women.
Krugman?
Krugman?
I Googled a pic of Krugman's wife. She doesn't look particularly black. Quadroon or octoroon, perhaps?
"I can't think of any high-status white guys outside of Hollywood and the pop music industry who are married to black women."
Niall Ferguson.
"I get it. People weren't openly racist. But "no bias at all" means that everyone is treated as their merit deserves."
Yeah. Dave gets it.
Again, note the 'groid lover conviction that NAM's are entitled to have people accord them socio-sexual status. It's a matter of "merit", you see. Not being considered romantic equals makes blacks (and their white apologists) mad. Because they're mad, they need to make the majority feel guilty for its social preferences. Blacks had better be on your radar screen romantically, or you're dysfunctional. And, of course, since no one wants to be dysfunctional, you'd better subscribe to Ms Dawson's trite notions of attraction. Or else.
I'd bet this explains a lot of the responses to the Allure survey. Even though these surveys are confidential, most mainstream whites know what kind of answers are expected of them. When someone asks if they find mixed & nonwhite women attractive, they suppress instinct and follow the script.
Not unlike the dynamic I saw at our local preschool, with one parent loudly telling a burned toddler how pretty she was. If I'm not mistaken, he called this disfigured kid "the most beautiful girl he'd ever met".
Niall Ferguson.
Holy shit, you're right. He's knocked up Ayaan Hirsi Ali. Well, okay, that's one. Still, I consider media-whore academics like Fergie and Krugie to be minor celebs akin to Hollywood and pop music types.
Minka Kelly
Alison Brie
Kristen Cavallari
Mila Kunis
Allure magazine is pretty funny. They act like they're trying to promote diverse standards of beauty then they'll have a bunch of classically goood looking women like Padma Lakshmi photographed butt naked, and no doubt photoshopped a smidge.
People can like what they want, but no feminist is going really change what the Maxim 100 looks like.
Mila Kunis had a nose job.
the 'groid lover
Some of the people on this site are cartoon bigots.
Still, I consider media-whore academics like Fergie and Krugie to be minor celebs akin to Hollywood and pop music types.
So you asked for examples, and now you don't want to accept them?
Some of the people on this site are cartoon bigots
Now we're going to argue about which anime characters we ought to find attractive?
So you asked for examples, and now you don't want to accept them?
First, I didn't actually ask for examples.
Second, I already said "Well, okay, that's one", which means I did actually accept that example.
I'm guessing you didn't score very high on the reading-comprehension sections of standardized tests.
Now we're going to argue about which anime characters we ought to find attractive?
That's a whole other thread topic, one that might reveal very embarrassing things about some of this blog's readers.
"Some of the people on this site are cartoon bigots."
Hey, don't mention it! Anything to jolt lurkers out of their comfort zone.
It's telling that our anonymous detractors have little to say about the important issue here. Namely, how absurd it is for America's bigoted Black/Hispanic populations, and their media enablers like Alana Dawson, to demand that the "racist" white majority find NAM's physically attractive. Odd, how so many "proud" Nubian gods & goddesses seem worried sick about what whites think of them. Anonymous's "I haz big penis" rantings are just one example of this unhealthy preoccupation.
"As for WHY the swarthy, still white, chicks are en vogue these days, i think it has to do with novelty. the blonde/blue-eyed model was ubiquitous for so many years that I think it became too commercial/sterile for popular tastes"
Too commercial and sterile for popular tastes? Popular tastes by definition are commercial and sanitized.
"Maybe in the future, the government will require beautiful people wear masks, so no one looks more attractive than anyone else, as in Kurt Vonnegut's 'Harrison Bergeron.'"
The novel "Facial Justice" has a similar scenario where the government mandates that all people have plastic surgery to look plain. The book is essentially a warning against egalitarianism and highlights egalitarianism's weaknesses.
The webpage I'm going to link to features, "War, then and now", which is something I've observed. Historically, nobility and even royals all the way up to the king would fight in combat whereas today presidents and high-status members of society hardly ever see war. The president may visit overseas bases occasionally, but this is hardly an equivalent of the feudal past. Although many of the blog's "then and now" pictures border on intellectual dishonesty for presenting exceptions as rules.
Examples of attractive women to me are Lydia Hearst (apart from her oftentimes outré fashion), Behati Prinsloo, and Calista Flockhart. I also like the kind of girl who is fair skinned, seems shy, has a proportional figure who is "flat", and who are shy and smart. There are many attractive personality traits and physical features; I'm just not into disproportionately large breasts or behinds.
Behati Prinsloo has an amazing face:
http://www.topnews.in/behati-prinsloo-victoria-secret-models-miranda-kerr-and-behati-prinsloo-launch-pink-body-and-heaven-0
And body-type:
http://www.newyorksocialdiary.com/node/17985/print
The aforementioned link has many other girls, such as Coco Rocha, Tinsley Mortimer, and Hana Soukupova that I find attractive.
Calista Flockhart
You always have to be careful when talking about the beauty of movie and TV stars you've never actually met in the flesh. A lot can be done with makeup, lighting, and photoshopping. CF is a good example. A friend of mine met her once in a department store. She said CF looked ghastly: deathly scrawny with gigantic veins showing through the paper-thin skin of her emaciated hands and arms. (My friend is not a mean-spirited or envious woman, either. She always admired CF and thought, before she actually met her, that she was pretty. Personally, I never found CF attractive, even on TV.)
"You always have to be careful when talking about the beauty of movie and TV stars you've never actually met in the flesh. A lot can be done with makeup, lighting, and photoshopping. CF is a good example. A friend of mine met her once in a department store. She said CF looked ghastly: deathly scrawny with gigantic veins showing through the paper-thin skin of her emaciated hands and arms."
Ahh, good old fashioned movie magic! She was beautiful in A Midsummer's Night Dream and on Ally McBeal, but actresses and models are very rarely as beautiful in person as they are on screen.
Jeez.. No one is demonizing Blonde hair/Blue eyes.. Hold the drama man..
Regardless, forget the minor things, most men want young, not fat, and curvy women (like you said earlier); hair/eye color is secondary to that.
"You always have to be careful when talking about the beauty of movie and TV stars you've never actually met in the flesh. A lot can be done with makeup, lighting, and photoshopping."
To wit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sp83qRLz9oM
Mila Kunis had a nose job.
She's cute, but not hot.
Alison Brie has a great rack.
Speaking of hot non-white girls, I probably only really fancy one non-white celebrity: Selena Gomez. She is absolutely stunning.
Selena Gomez is not stunning.
Selena Gomez is completely unremarkable. How the heck can you think she's hot, One?
Salma Hayek is still hot (I strongly disagree with Roissy's suggestion that there hardly any hot women over 30), but Selena Gomez?
If you think she's stunning you really need to take a vacation to South Beach, Florida this winter.
Mila Kunis had a nose job.
She's cute, but not hot.
Selena Gomez is not stunning.
Well clearly we disagree. I consider both Mila Kunis and Selena Gomez stunning.
As for going to South Beach, Gomez isn't that type of "hot" (which I don't find that attractive anyway). But I'm not alone in fancying Ms. Gomez; she's widely considered one of the most gorgeous celebrities. She won a Teen Choice Award for best looking and FWIW, Blode agrees with me:
http://blode0322.blogspot.com/2011/04/maybe-you-can-legislate-morality-after.html
I think they were talking about the magnificent Selena Gomez
I've also had friends and family members comment on how beautiful she is (usually something like, "wow who is that? she is gorgeous.")
I've also had friends and family members comment on how beautiful she is
I don't know what the heck it is they see in her. To me she looks chunky and moderately pretty. Maybe it's a "Jennifer Aniston" thing where everyone becomes convinced a very bland looking actress is beautiful because she's in movies.
I consider both Mila Kunis
Kunis is "cute" but "cute" <> "stunning".
What do you guys think of Skyler Samuels (Nine Lives of Chloe King)?
Maybe it's a "Jennifer Aniston" thing where everyone becomes convinced a very bland looking actress is beautiful because she's in movies.
Look at Aniston when she was 20. She had a rounder face and features then. She went the "Hollywood hardbody" route when she got famous, the concomitant loss of fat giving her a more masculine look.
Skyler Samuels
Borderline between cute and hot (there is cute-hot spectrum).
But I don't find most women celebrities to be that attractive in general compared to one finds strutting around on American college campuses or a good beach.
She had a rounder face and features then.
Her face looks the same as it did when she was in high school: Above mediocre with an OK body and decent acting abilities. Seems like a nice enough person in private life, but just not a very striking woman.
We all have our particular tastes. The blogger's obviously run towards cute, button-nosed, wholesome young girls, preferably Caucasian. Nothing wrong with that. Nothing at all.
Speaking of hot non-white girls, I probably only really fancy one non-white celebrity: Selena Gomez.
How can you say that she's non-white?
"I get it. People weren't openly racist. But "no bias at all" means that everyone is treated as their merit deserves."
No, people who say thing's like "if only we could paint over her skin" are being openly racist.
"No, people who say thing's like "if only we could paint over her skin" are being openly racist."
The sad thing is, DWL's still believe that their catch-all "R" swearword still carries weight. Many people of all races are not "wired" to find outsiders' skin tone & facial features good looking - this presents a huge problem for miscegenation-pushers.
All the ranting about "racism" (translation: anger that not enough Whites find NAMs attractive) does little to change reality.
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