Wednesday, June 29, 2011

More Thoughts on Violent Black Mobs and the Evil of Modern Leftism

We always try to switch up the topics here at OneSTDV, but the Carter Strange beating and other recent incidences of black mob violence have really hit a nerve. In this case, it is the leftist/official response to the Strange beating and the subhuman acts themselves that have gotten to me. I burned out on blogging last month, an almost inevitable danger if one invests too much emotion in the topics discussed here. But this rash of subhuman behavior needs to be publicized, especially in honest and cathartic forums such as this one.

The state prosecutor contends this beating had nothing to do with race.
“This was a robbery,” said Johnson. “People have made an assumption of hate crime because the victim is white and the suspects are African-American. But there is no evidence we have seen that race played a part in this.
And the left still wonders why ordinary Americans express increasing skepticism regarding government motivation. The government, with a Justice Department led by Eric "Nation of Cowards" Holder, has no desire to protect whites, afford them any social respect, or allow them any collective grievance. I know it goes without saying, but if this were a gang of whites beating a black teen, the Justice Department, along with the indefatigable race hustlers, would assuredly consider it a hate crime. Honestly though, and it pains me to say this, we can't definitively prove this was race-related. We all know it is because we notice the pattern, but we can't prove it because we can't see inside someone's head to parse their motivations.

Yet the official story on the incident obscures the details of what happened. Mr. Johnson describes it as merely a "robbery", a semantic trick no doubt intended to dampen public ire. But why then did they beat Carter until he almost died? A skinny 18 year-old walking alone, surrounded by a pack of eight black animals, can not defend himself. I can confidently state that a robbery would have required almost no physical assault whatsoever. Of course, we know these animals robbed him, then beat him repeatedly, seemingly for the fun of it. We likely can't prove it was a hate crime, but we can obviously conclude that this was an attack without logic besides the evil expressed by the eight perpetrators.

Clearly, the prosecutor intends to downplay the severity of the attack. At the very least, a standard robbery makes sense; it is the domain of the parasitic class, but it manifests from basic human desire. This beating, unlike retaliatory white lynchings, speaks to something outside civilization. This beating reflects a wholly different constitution of man, a savage mentality that completely lacks human compassion or even human emotion. The prosecutor actually wants to paint the best scenario possible, as most can sympathize with the basic impetus for robbery. I imagine the prosecutor will use this misleading description to justify letting these animals out by age 18 or, at the very latest, age 21.

In doing so, this prosecutor and the vile commenters at places like Media Matters reflect the increasingly amoral nature of modern leftism. The genesis of modern leftism likely arose amongst an overly idealistic group who wished to normalize their lascivious behavior and rebel intellectually against American traditionalism. Contrary to these early dreamers, the modern left has descended to the precipice of evil. I hesitate to classify them as "evil", but their tacit exoneration of blacks for these violent attacks fits the definition.

The modern left no longer cares about human dignity. They no longer care about protecting individuals from harm. They no longer care about happiness, safety, or general well-being. The modern left cares about their narrative above all else, a narrative that dictates their beliefs, their self-aggrandizing moral posturing, and their nauseating reaction to violent acts like this.

I have not read even one comment in those Media Matters threads expressing sympathy for Mr. Strange or the others affected by these mob attacks. I have not seen even an off-hand reference to the victims. All I see are shrill leftists spewing hatred at anyone who just barely crosses the PC line. All I see are leftists asserting that conservative commenters are the bad guys and not the subhuman animals that beat people. The left ignores evil, forgives evil, and ultimately permits evil. Perhaps they don't do it themselves, but they find a way to project blame. In doing so, in celebrating murderers and thugs, the modern left has completely perverted the moral order. They have excoriated the innocent, extolled the bad, and expressed a vile sickness that permeates their political platform.

In erecting this distorted conception of morality, where external and ostensibly positive aspects of society replace individual motivation as the primary cause of evil, the left no longer connects with any reasonable standard of humanity. In essence, they celebrate destruction as a means of maintaining their flimsy narrative, as in Matthew Yglesias' commentary on his own mugging. Fittingly, the modern left almost doesn't consider the humanity of whites or at least doesn't believe whites exist as moral beings independent of an inherited history of evil. I discussed this idea in a post entitled Racial Original Sin:
Because liberals consider whites as inherently corrupt beings, even benign predilections become fodder for censure. The author believes facial recognition is racist, even though he also accepts that it's natural, because he considers any deviation from the liberal racial paradigm as evil. Leftists then argue that one can exonerate himself of "original sin" through deeds like forced desegregation, support of unlimited immigration, support of affirmative action, and advancement of the basic hate-whitey ideals. Only then, when a white person has fully accepted his inherent depravity and rejected his presumed white privilege through deeds can he be considered a moral individual.
Above, I've spoken about leftists refusing to blame actual murderers, instead bringing up ancillary issues to deflect the focus. One such issue is the notion of forgiveness. Matt Lauer interviewed Carter Strange and his parents (you can just tell they're a nice, upstanding, working-class Southern family) on the Today Show. Mr. Lauer actually had the audacity to say this to the family:
It seems to me the defense so far is saying, 'Look these kids who are between the ages of 13 and 19 are basically good kids who did a very bad thing and made very bad judgments.' Do you feel that way?
I read a quote from the mother referring to the attackers as "animals." Unbelievably, Lauer also asks:
Carter, your dad has already said he finds it hard to find forgiveness in his heart, what about you?
An eighteen year-old kid is beaten to within an inch of his life and Lauer, along with the rest of liberal society, presumes that he will make a moral concession. Liberal society, which Lauer reflects, asks him such a question as he suffers through recovery. Why should innocent individuals find themselves responsible for the moral cleansing of these animals. From this, it seems modern Western society upholds "progress" over sense. Are we so enamored with our "enlightened" attitudes that we've lost a basic understanding of human dignity, of right and wrong?

In sum, I believe this recent spate of violent black mobs culminating with the Carter Strange beating, has illuminated the evil of modern leftism. And fortunately, essentially every single unmoderated comment section I've read is full of people understanding the same exact thing.

Pertinent Links:
Unamusement Park; GLPiggy; SBPDL; Auster; Jewamongyou; Paul Kersey in Death Wish
Fund for Carter Strange

80 comments:

PA said...

This is a magnificent post, OneSTDV.

EYE OF HORUS said...

Of Course Leftists are EVIL. They are EVIL Incarnate. They are Communists and Satanists.

What else but EVIL could They be?

AmyJ said...

Unfortunately, you're most likely preaching to the choir. The people who really need to hear this - the ones who lean to the left but aren't religiously liberal - will see the word "evil" in the title and immediately write you off as an ignorant bigot.

One wonders how long they can keep their head in the sand. I mean, they do a pretty great job, considering progressive white women are able to blame being raped by black men on white men (http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/04/23/we-are-not-your-weapons-we-are-women/). What will it take?

Anonymous said...

When America starts treating black men equitably and distibutes wealth in a more reasonable mnner then these attacks will stop.

Whites have advatages and provileges in almost every metric. Wealth housing healthcare, etc...

Cry me a fucking river.

Anonymous said...

"It seems to me the defense so far is saying, 'Look these kids who are between the ages of 13 and 19 are basically good kids who did a very bad thing and made very bad judgments.' Do you feel that way?"

haha! they didn't do a bad thing, they did a little somethin', somethin' that be dope.

Anonymous said...

"contends this beating had nothing to do with race."

It has everything to do with race even if it had nothing to do with race.

Black people have a vastly higher violent crime rate. The MSM has refused to tell the truth about this for 50 years. If 12% of the population is responsible for 50% of the total murders then that is the most salient fact in the whole criminal justice debate and yet it is NEVER mentioned in the MSM.

The standard sequence in every area of public life is problem -> reaction -> solution. The MSM's refusal to tell the truth about this problem prevented a reaction and therefore a solution.

http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm

If you look at the murder column they start at around 10,000 or so per year until the mid 60s when they begin to climb dramatically - coincedentally soon after desegregation and the 1965 immigration act. They reach a peak of around 24,000 before starting to decline to around 15,000 so very roughly they're now some 2/3 off peak

The drop coincides with the vast increase in incarceration rates. If you believe the main reason for the drop is the increased incarceration rate then if that policy had been adopted earlier you're looking at HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of avoidable murder victims.

The MSM (and left-liberals generally) are directly responsible for those avoidable deaths.

Anonymous said...

"When America starts treating black men equitably and distibutes wealth in a more reasonable mnner then these attacks will stop."

Black people have a vastly higher violent crime rate.

The majority of victims are also black.

Ergo left-liberals and the MSM don't care about what's bad for black people.

Anonymous said...

Don't ever stop!

Chicago said...

We're seeing the rise of a nationwide Mau Mau movement. People can't or don't want to believe what they're seeing so they're trying to explain what's been happening by falling back on the old and outdated formulas of causation of violence.
It's not just a quantitive change but a qualitative one.
Rap song lyrics, for example, are domestic versions of the South African "Kill the Boer" songs.
There's something in the air these days that's been awhile in coming. You can just feel it.

Camlost said...

Whites have advatages and provileges in almost every metric.

Intelligence, work ethic, attitude, sociability...

John D said...

PA said...
This is a magnificent post, OneSTDV.


It really is. And how despicable is Matt Lauer? Oh, how I hope traitorous, suicidal liberal whites have a reckoning if the guano ever really hits the fan.

When America starts treating black men equitably and distibutes wealth in a more reasonable mnner then these attacks will stop.

Blacks in America are the most fortunate blacks on the planet. They are treated more than equitably, and their condition here is far greater than anywhere that is non-white run. Owing to their low IQs and low impulse control, they are always at the bottom of the social barrel wherever in the world they are. It has nothing whatever to do with white racism. They are a failed race.

OneSTDV said...

Please ignore the troll.

Appreciate it, PA and John D.

Anonymous said...

Leftism reminds me of an evil, suicidal religion. Its like they are the living dead or zombies and are trying to turn everybody into pods. Little by little the pods (courtesy of Takuan Seiyo) start replacing the real people and in a world of lies telling the truth is a revolutionary act. Liberalism is a religion to its elite and its followers and we need to study de-conversion religious tactics fast. Trying to tell one (a liberal/progressive/leftist) that what they believe is wrong is like telling a Muslim that Islam is false and Muhammed wasn't the messenger of Allah. They will not hear you and will surely deny you. Leftism is the undead and has convinced everybody else that they are alive.

Alexander said...

When America starts treating black men equitably and distibutes wealth in a more reasonable mnner then these attacks will stop.

Then it will never stop because equality DOESN'T exist.

Whites have advatages and provileges in almost every metric. Wealth housing healthcare, etc...

Cry me a fucking river.


Start crying fool. Europeans have a higher civilizational ability than Africans. Deal with it. Oh wait leftists can't deal with reality and try everything in their power to alter it. The dream you desire is in reality a nightmare.

PA said...

I question the assertions that Leftism is as immovable in people's minds like religion. It is more like a class marker, with shrill reactions to "heresy" coming from a perception that the leftist's ego-invested attitudes are threatened.

There is also an effeminate element to leftists' hysterics. They are akin to a woman that faces herself in the correct clique, suddenly feeling her social standing threatened by having her thoughts polluted by a an unpopular guy's presence near her.

Unlike with religion, there is no supernatural or transcendent element in leftism. I'd compare today's scenario to zeal for Communism, which never left much of an imprint in people's psyches seventy years later.

PA said...

Another parallel with communism: unlike with religions, leftism does not inspire loyalty and sacrifice. Old communists became new capitalists after 1990. Hipsters and SWPLs move to the suburbs when their children reach school age.

Like communism, leftism delivers nothing. (Pre-liberal) Christianity and Islam delivered meaning, cohesion, order, conquest, and population growth. Communism delivered nothing except short term opulence for its top cadres. Sound familiar?

Racial leftism will crumble under the weight of its lies and its failure to deliver progress or anything good and sustainable.

Sheila said...

I've stated before that far too many Whites will die at the hands of blacks STILL unwilling to face the reality of race, culture, IQ, and violence. An unusually large percentage will be Jews and young liberals, ostentatiously demonstrating their idealism and race-blind superiority. Most know of the infamous example of Jew Amy Biehl begging for her life, and her despicable parents parading their "forgiveness" for her murderers and continuing to fund their savagery. The recent post by Emily Guendelsberger's friend Calan, impotently insisting there's no way to make sense of the 40-50 blacks beating her friends is another example. Refusal to face reality, to leave one's fantasy construct of buying a coke and singing in harmony, is even more powerful than self preservation among these oddities. Steve Sailer has an interesting post about the race-blindness of liberal Jew Matthew Yglesias further demonstrating willing suspension of disbelief.

A growing number of White Christians, however, are beginning to take note, and their uneasiness is such that they're willing to make comments such as those listed in Unamusement Park's post today. More people are buying more guns and ammo and determining not to be victims. Whether the final spark will be a White resisting black violence, or a diversity cop killing a White resister, the ultimate outcome can only be better than this slow boiling.

Anonymous said...

The race of the previous intended victims says nothing about intent or the precipitating cause of the actions. All that indicates is the demographics of the area. For it to be a hate crime the victims race would have to be to primary motivating force behind the attack. That doesn't seem to be the case here, at least there is no evidence that points in that direction. Instead, the victim seems to be more a victim of convenience and circumstance.

Anonymous said...

Probably was a 'hate crime,' in the classic sense. A small mob of blacks beating one white boy without motivation other than his skin color - Inexcusable.

Barbaric hatred & violence by white mobs beating, burning, lynching blacks, in the history of this state, far outnumbers the reverse. Who could offer an excuse for that?

So, you modern day sons-of-the-confederacy need to stuff your phony moral outrage & acknowledge the simple fact that hate mongering & gratuitous violence is a 'human' condition - stop trying to pretend those attributes are exclusively the territory of the stupid young thugs who, this time, happened to be black.

Sheila said...

New flash mob in Philadelphia: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/06/flashmobbery-in-philly-100-youths-storm-through-city-center-on-robbery-assault-rampage/

Anonymous said...

Another parallel with communism: unlike with religions, leftism does not inspire loyalty and sacrifice.

I never stated that leftism is religion but a perversion of religion in the sense that no matter what you do they will never leave their belief systems and will deny, deny, deny (yes liberalism possesses a HUGE difference in that its secular but even there we need to use "religious de-conversion" tactics in talking to leftists). Leftism is really more like an undead cult trying to convert everybody to become as zombie-like as them.

Anonymous said...

Sorry I should have used the term religious cult.

Black Death said...

There's really nothing new here. Leftists have always excused or covered up the murderous acts of other leftists. These are the folks who worshiped genocidal tyrants such as Lenin, Stalin and Mao (Walter Duranty and the NYT come to mind). To them, the murderous thug Che Guevara is a folk hero, and cop killer Mumia Abu-Jamal a nice guy. Leftism is rotten at it's very core, and it's always been so.

Lucille said...

Barbaric hatred & violence by white mobs beating, burning, lynching blacks, in the history of this state, far outnumbers the reverse.

Is this an appeal to the notion of inherited guilt?

top trying to pretend those attributes are exclusively the territory of the stupid young thugs who, this time, happened to be black.

Straw man; no, violence is not *exclusively* the province of young black males, but violent criminals are disproportionately black. "Happened to be black"... as if there's no pattern to this sort of thing. "Sons of the confederacy" as if none of us hail from the northern states, or outside of the USA. F- for your drivel.

Anonymous said...

"For it to be a hate crime the victims race would have to be to primary motivating force behind the attack."

However for it to be a race-crime the PERPETRATOR'S race would have to be the primary motivating factor behind the attack.

If the colors were reversed we all know the MSM and left-liberals would be saying this was a hate-crime without any evidence at all but at the end of the day it doesn't have to be a hate-crime for this to be a race-crime.

Black people have a vastly higher violent crime rate but because the MSM and left-liberals have covered it up for 50 years nothing has been done to solve the problem.

If the MSM had told the truth and this problem had been debated openly and solutions found then this attack, like MILLIONS of others, might not have happened.

It may not have been a hate-crime but it is most definitely a race-crime until such time as the actual crime rates outside of prison have been made the same across all ethnic groups because the incarceration rates have been made proportional to each ethnic group's natural crime rate.

Anonymous said...

"white mobs beating, burning, lynching blacks, in the history of this state, far outnumbers the reverse."

That's comparing rough justice then, to unprovoked hate crimes now.

White lynching of blacks in the century leading upbringing 1950 averaged about 40 per year. Those killings were almost always retaliatory responses to black crimes. Whites were also lynched by whites, in huge numbers.

In contrast, black assaults, murders, and rapes of whites since the sixties average about 700,000 per year. Those crimes are almost always perpetuated against innocent whites, not as retaliation for something they did.

Anonymous said...

"Most know of the infamous example of Jew Amy Biehl begging for her life, and her despicable parents parading their "forgiveness" for her murderers and continuing to fund their savagery."

Yeah, I know it's really tough to fact check these days with this Internet thingie, but if you pull your big nose out of Stormfront you could find stuff like this

http://www.findahero.com/HeroDetailsPrinterFriendly.cfm?SearchValue=213

and others which state that Biehl's family is Catholic. That's a Christian sect. And really, do you think that if Amy Biehl had been Jewish that the whole world wouldn't know about it? What a maroon!

Anonymous said...

why is memento your least favourite movie

Californian said...

Mr. Johnson describes it as merely a "robbery", a semantic trick no doubt intended to dampen public ire. But why then did they beat Carter until he almost died?

Possibly for the same reason that in the rainbow nation of South Africa blacks inflict all sorts of atrocities on Whites whom they rob and rape and otherwise assault. Quite possibly it is some kind of primal tribal conflict, doing all one can to destroy the "other." Possibly they are egged on by evil leftists who have demonized White people for decades. And possibly it is because mainstream conservatives have refused to see the racial aspect to this issue, and thereby do not defend White people intellectually (or physically, for that matter).

Look at the bigger picture. America, indeed the West, seems to be unraveling. There is no attempt to defend the borders from illegal mass migrations. Inner cities have become dominated by gangs or no-go zone for the police. Now we are seeing the next stage, which seems to be exploratory raids against White people. Perhaps an Adrianople is in the offing?

Of course, liberalism fulfills its historic role as the ideology of Western suicide by rationalizing these attacks (blaming them on poverty or "racism" or whatever). But this does point up a real need, which is for an ideology which can inspire millions of Westerners to resist the ongoing tide of barbarism which seems to have reached the gates.

unamusementpark said...

OF COURSE these are hate crimes. Blacks despise Whites, and attack them at every opportunity.

In 2008, the majority (54–55%) of violent Black crimes, not including murder, were committed against Whites.

The problem is not the economy. It's not discrimination. It's not society. It's Blacks, and their DNA. It is the only explanation that fits the evidence.

OneSTDV said...

Please ignore the troll.

Dave said...

@One
Response to the past three days...

"the left gets sanctimoniously angry about conservatives passively noting the common trait of mob participants."

It's not passive. You're choosing crimes to get outraged over based on the race of the criminals and victims.

You've already admitted, in your discussion with TUJ, that you're deliberately, dishonestly, exaggerating the problem of black crime in order to get a rise out of your readers. It's not "passive."

"Apparently, they can't find any sympathy for actual victims of crime,"

I don't get the feeling that you have any particular sympathy for the victims of crime. You're simply using this boy as an excuse to feel outraged -- it's entirely selfish.

When Chris Paul forgave the criminals who killed his grandfather, where was your sympathy then? You called Amy Biehl's father a "vile creature" for forgiving his daughter's killers. Your supposed "sympathy" vanishes once the victims are no longer useful to you. What would you do if Carter Strange asked you to forgive his attackers?

Anyway, if you really are searching for an outlet for all this "sympathy" that you feel, you might mention that the family needs help paying his medical bills. A charity's been set up, I believe -- not sure how legit it is.

http://funds.gofundme.com/Carter-Strange-Fund

You might want to look into it, since by posting this up front you could be of help.

"White people do this stuff too: Apparently, Drudge and others are cherry-picking data concerning black riots, violent flash mobs, and random beatings."

Matt Drudge, and you, are cherry-picking data. This is NOT up for debate. Do you think Drudge is choosing these particular stories at random? He is looking for stories of black crime, and posting only them. That's the definition of cherry-picking.

"If the stories of similar behavior from whites and Asians actually exist, then why do liberal sites like DailyKos and Salon.com not run with them to counter Drudge's "scary black man" narrative?"

Because they're aware how little value anecdotes have?

Dave said...

Part 2

"Where are all these incidents of whites running around county fairs beating black families... I challenge liberals to find the same exact local stories, except with white perpetrators."

Ha ha -- "same exact" You're so transparent: "No, that one doesn't count -- it wasn't at a county fair."

The reason no one takes you up on your "challenge" is that it's so obvious that no matter what anyone finds you're going to weasel out of admitting that you're wrong.

Last time you played this card, I revealed that a poster on your very own site was bragging about this exact behavior -- roving around with a gang, beating up innocent people. Later, he bragged that this included any black people that came "sniffing around."

Was this anecdote considered relevant? No, of course not. Your readers made excuses, and explained how what RobertB was talking about was normal, manly behavior.

But, MY challenge remains. If you set a clear definition for what kind of counter-evidence you want, and agree that, if I find it, you'll apologize for the previous three posts, then I'll go looking for it. Not before.

"I'm confused - when exactly are we allowed to notice racial patterns?"

I'll answer that question elsewhere -- it deserves a separate debate. Here are two questions for you though.

-What do you say to your readers who openly and proudly consider themselves racist?

-When is it acceptable to use the term racist? What behavior does it accurately describe?

Suffice it to say, I think anyone who considers your or Matt Drudge's writing racist is being completely reasonable.

"Honestly though, and it pains me to say this, we can't definitively prove this was race-related."

Then the courts shouldn't prosecute this as a hate crime. That's how the court system works. What do you want them to do?

"This beating, unlike retaliatory white lynchings, speaks to something outside civilization."

Holy shit. Now you're making excuses for lynching? For premeditated murder? That's pretty sick.

"The modern left cares about their narrative above all else, a narrative that dictates their beliefs, their self-aggrandizing moral posturing, and their nauseating reaction to violent acts like this."

You're describing only yourself.

"In erecting this distorted conception of morality, where external and ostensibly positive aspects of society replace individual motivation as the primary cause of evil,"

You just did this. You excused lynching as merely "retaliatory."

Anyway, your past three posts contain too much ugliness and insanity for me to address all at once. (And have included zero concrete suggestions as to how to move forward -- further evidence that all you want to do is stroke your moral outrage-boner.) But I do hope you got as much pleasure out of saying nigger as you hoped you would.

As for Carter Strange, the best I can say is that I hope he recovers from the trauma as best he can and that his scars and fame get him prodigiously laid.

http://funds.gofundme.com/Carter-Strange-Fund

map said...

No No...let's not ignore the troll. Let's take his argument to its logical conclusion:

Whites are joint and severally liable for all the bad things that happened to blacks.

Fine.

That means blacks are joint and severally liable for all the bad things that happen to whites.

Understand?

Oh...in my fair city of Chicago...the gun shops are empty.

Camlost said...

Matt Drudge, and you, are cherry-picking data. This is NOT up for debate. Do you think Drudge is choosing these particular stories at random? He is looking for stories of black crime, and posting only them. That's the definition of cherry-picking.

You keep saying this, but only blacks have been guilty of this type of random mob beating as of late. Their 13% of the population but 100% of flash mob robs and beatings.

If we're "cherry picking", then please provide us with alternative links/stories/articles showing groups of whites committing random mob violence against blacks.

And please don't rattle on and on about Emmett Till again. That was 50+ years ago.

Anonymous said...

Dave -

Fuck off

Anonymous said...

Blacks are animals and their liberal supporters are evil. Good thing blacks can't tell a white liberal apart from any white they hate. May all the white liberals get beaten and murdered by the blacks they love so much.

Hope that girl with the broken leg gets sepsis and dies.

Anonymous said...

"Dave -

Fuck off"

+10 to that.

Dave is a troll, full stop. He is not interested in reasoned debate at all. As someone mentioned about the disgusting Matt Lauer, when the sh@t hits the fan, hopefully he'll get his. And he'll have no one but himself to blame.

Dave said...

@cam
"You keep saying this, but only blacks have been guilty of this type of random mob beating as of late."

1. Matt Drudge doesn't limit himself to "random mob beatings." He posts hold-ups, bar brawls -- crimes that are perpetrated by all races. But he selectively posts instances of these crimes where the perpetrators were black. That's cherry-picking.

2. Like I said, if all you're interested in is obtaining the result "100% of the perpetrators were black," this is easy. Just constrain yourself to a very narrow, obscure type of crime -- "flash mob robs." But then the question becomes -- what's so special about "flash mob robs" that we're only talking about them, as opposed to all of the other horrible crimes that are happening. And the obvious answer is, you searched for a type of crime that is dominated by blacks, and then decided that this type of crime is uniquely "uncivilized."

100% of all US Presidential assassins were white. This isn't a particularly meaningful statistic, but that "100%" sure can make it seem like it is.

"If we're "cherry picking", then please provide us with alternative links/stories/articles showing groups of whites committing random mob violence against blacks."

Again, you're just setting terms so narrow that they could never possibly be satisfied. The whole parameters of the study are selected -- ignore all types of violence other than "inter-racial flash mob beatings" -- so as to return the desired result.

And, one more time: I will not answer any demands for "links/stories/articles" unless they come with a guarantee that, if I find them, YOU WILL ADMIT YOU WERE WRONG.

"And please don't rattle on and on about Emmett Till again. That was 50+ years ago."

Someone else brought up Emmett Till. But if you think all crimes from 50 years ago are irrelevant, than you must concede none of the patterns you discuss from today will be relevant 50 years from now.

Anonymous said...

Again, blacks are about 12 to 13% of the population and they commit over half the murders. 'Flash mobs' are hardly the only kind of violence they are involved it.

Lucille said...

100% of all US Presidential assassins were white. This isn't a particularly meaningful statistic, but that "100%" sure can make it seem like it is.

Horrible analogy. Only four presidents have been assassinated in the history of the United States; not a sample big enough to draw statistically significant conclusions from.

By comparison, there were over 1.3 million violent crimes in the United States in the year 2009.

You're amazingly dishonest.

Camlost said...

Dave, you're just a colossal dumbass.

At least Obsidian would try to slap together some ill-fitting wikipedia links.

Dave said...

"Horrible analogy. Only four presidents have been assassinated in the history of the United States; not a sample big enough to draw statistically significant conclusions from."

Neither are "flash mobs robs." This is where Camlost got his 100%. That's why, actually? It's a really good analogy. A statistic that seems meaningful but actually isn't.

"By comparison, there were over 1.3 million violent crimes in the United States in the year 2009."

And blacks didn't commit 100% of them! But 100% of Drudge's anecdotes are violent crimes with black perpetrators! That's why people say they were cherry-picked! IT'S NOT HARD.

"You're amazingly dishonest."

Either I'm dishonest, you're dishonest, or you're an idiot.

Whiskey said...

First this is the ongoing forever war among the "right sort of White people" like Matt Lauer (and his almost exclusively female and White audience on the Today Show) and the "wrong sort of White people" (who are not famous, cool, hip, and rich). It is the Lady Gaga-ites (who performed on the Today Show recently, I saw part of it in a hospital emergency room, don't ask) vs. Joe Average. It is part and parcel of the White female hatred for Beta Males. Matt Lauer is nothing without his audience who WANTS to hear that sort of stuff.

Progressive White women HATE HATE HATE White men. So no wonder as Amy J says they blame their rape on White guys.

Whiskey said...

Also the Prosecutor is a BLACK MAN. Pretty much ALL Black officials will put race above everything else. Racial solidarity counts more than anything else, including justice, duty, etc. This is why Black officials of any stripe cannot be trusted. They will always be Race Men and Race Women.

For those who argue that "White people have it coming" for past sins, well then we've established that there can be no "race-neutral" society, merely one race with their boot upon another's neck. In that case, since I cannot change my skin color, I prefer MY RACE to have the boot upon the neck rather than have a boot upon my own personal neck.

Given that Blacks are 12% of the population, have almost no money, no presence in the military, police, etc. this would not seem to be a wise move -- making a Mau-Mau racial hatred beatings/lynchings. Particularly when the growing population (Mexicans) hates Blacks and has cleansed them out of numerous areas (Azusa 13 was charged with hate crimes/racial cleansing in Azusa CA).

Whiskey said...

Dave -- it is unarguably true that NO WHITES have formed mobs of 50-100 to loot Black shops, and beat the hell out of Black people they encounter randomly. There are NO White analogs to "Polar Bear Hunting" (no White guys looking for Blacks in the Ghetto and beating/shooting them) or "Knockout King" (where Whites beat an unsuspecting Black into unconsciousness).

I am not like you, and am like most White people. I don't care about who did what to whom 100 or fifty years ago. It was before I was born, it had nothing to do with me or my family. I have no original racial sin.

MY ONLY CONCERN is not getting killed/beaten/robbed by a PACK OF BLACKS. PERIOD. So yes I am afraid of Blacks -- with good reason. They hate me, want to kill me, and pretty much all Blacks act that way. [Reginald Denny and the OJ case showed me that.] Worse, pretty much ALL BLACK OFFICIALS WILL COVER for other Blacks doing hate crimes against me.

Want me to give a fraction of my money to Black officials like Maxine Waters or William Cold Cash Jefferson? I'd be willing if its not too much, buys social peace, and keeps the failed 12% of the population busy shooting their own color instead of mine (because I don't CARE about Black people other than not being a victim of them).

I sure as hell won't give a dime if all I get for my money is a beat-down whenever I'm a target. If Blacks want the money they have to dance the tune -- lay off the lynching of White folks.

There, I boiled it down for you to the essence.

Nine-of-Diamonds said...

"But 100% of Drudge's anecdotes are violent crimes with black perpetrators! That's why people say they were cherry-picked! IT'S NOT HARD."

Here's hoping that someday our dimwit 'Groid-hugger manages to cobble together more plausible lies. Seriously, if they're going to be mendacious I wish they'd at least make it more interesting.

"Dave, you're just a colossal dumbass."

Go easy on my buddy. Nobody ever said that the implosion of Black Run America would be easy. Leasto of all for a drone like him.


"Good thing blacks can't tell a white liberal apart from any white they hate. May all the white liberals get beaten and murdered by the blacks they love so much."

I'm not at that point yet. But in all honesty, once I learned the latest victim worked for "The Onion" I lost a lot of sympathy for her. Gramscian-influenced "humor" goes a long way towards explaining why people my age excuse minority dysfunction. See, for instance, the "Black People in the Elevator" skit, which my twentysomething peers consider a "hilarious" and "powerful" commentary on "racism". Not written by The Onion, but exactly the sort of Negrophile snark that Ms Guendelsberger would have lapped up.

I don't advocate violence against the 'Groid huggers. Still, it's only fitting that culture shapers like Emily Guendelsberger enjoy the fruits of their labor. Better them than the innocent working class whites who, because they don't have the money to insulate themselves from Blacks, make up most hate crime victims in the US.

Nine-of-Diamonds said...

"Given that Blacks are 12% of the population, have almost no money, no presence in the military, police, etc. this would not seem to be a wise move "

Remember that many Blacks are statistically illiterate. I read a stat somewhere that said a good number of them think they make up 50% of the US population. Many of those who didn't still believed the number was about 25-30% (as you know, still way off). And also note that there's a widespread stereotype among Blacks that white people "can't fight". Probably driven by a variety of factors, such as Black athletic prowess, white failure to retaliate in kind for flash mobs, & more.

Anonymous said...

Anon 6/29/2011 8:48 AM says:
"When America starts treating black men equitably and distibutes wealth in a more reasonable mnner then these attacks will stop."

No it won't. Blacks still commit more crime than whites even when adjusting for social economic factors. The only real solution for defending white society against black misbehavior is segregation.

That's the policy the elites of this country have adopted: segregation for themselves and integration for everybody else.

E

Anonymous said...

Anon 6/29/2011 3:22 PM says:
"Dave is a troll, full stop. He is not interested in reasoned debate at all. As someone mentioned about the disgusting Matt Lauer, when the sh@t hits the fan, hopefully he'll get his. And he'll have no one but himself to blame."

Dave is a useful idiot and we all know what happens to idiots who outlive their usefulness.

E

Anonymous said...

Dave reminds of SBDPL Desiree's troll. He excuses minority dysfunction again, again and again.

Anonymous said...

Dave reminds of SBDPL Desiree's troll. He excuses minority dysfunction again, again and again.

Sorry I meant Dave reminds me of SBDPL's troll called "Desiree". Dave endlessly excuses minority dysnfunction again, again and again just like Desiree. May the white liberals be torn apart by their minorities.

Nine-of-Diamonds said...

"That's the policy the elites of this country have adopted: segregation for themselves and integration for everybody else."

Amen.

The interesting thing about Ms Guendelsberger is how rarely people like her to become victims. They can afford fortified enclaves in Georgetown and Manhattan. They can send their kids to private schools that are 95% White & "model minority". Their commitment to diversity consists of saying "hi" to that nice Black janitor at work. And yukking it up when "The Onion" pokes fun at "hateful" working class whites.

Meanwhile, the White underclass practices the "diverse" living that SWPL's preach about (although probably not too willingly). Lower Middle & Working Class whites face Africanization within every sphere. In public schools, recreational areas, restaurants, whole neighborhoods. Partly due to high energy costs, which have been deliberately engineered by America's first African executive branch. Now that fuel prices eat up the income needed for peaceful self segregation, most Whites can look forward to increased "vibrancy" for a LONG time to come.

Anonymous said...

Wow Matt Lauer is just shameless. But on the bright side of all this I now have enough incentive to trade in my S&W revolver for something that can hold more than 5 rounds. I hope most of you live in states where it's not illegal to protect yourself.

Whiskey said...

People are just going to carry illegally. In states that don't let them do so legally, and dress in "disguise" (ball cap, dark glasses, hoodie etc) all the time, for the White working class. The bit about high energy costs making "diversity" in their face is spot on.

Basically the Yuppie "I care about Blacks" stuff is eroding. Most Whites don't care one way or another about Blacks other than to avoid them as much as possible, and do so in real life and in entertainment. Even Football, both College and Pro, is feeling that effect. White fans only care about QBs (and kickers) and coaches, not disposable/replaceable WRs, CBs, and such. The NBA could go on strike and most people would not care -- it is a league for Blacks by Blacks, of little interest to the wider population.

US politics has been consumed one way or another for the past forty years with guilt, shame, hatred, and rage towards Blacks. That seems to have reached its expiration date. Instead, massive indifference mixed with a heartfelt desire to avoid Blacks in nearly every sphere because they are unpleasant for the most part (rap music is unmelodic and emotionally cold) seems to drive most White behavior.

Obama showing the gap between Hollywood fantasies of Black Presidents (Dennis Haysbert and Morgan Freeman reading scripts) and the reality (abject buffoonery mixed with hatred for Whites) has been telling. Even "first Black" Football coaches get canned if they don't produce wins and championships. Ask Denny Green how that goes.

OneSTDV said...

@ Dave:

Don't know why but I'm replying:


You've already admitted, in your discussion with TUJ, that you're deliberately, dishonestly, exaggerating the problem of black crime in order to get a rise out of your readers. It's not "passive."


I said the notion that blacks are invading white neighborhoods is exaggerated. It is, but that doesn't preclude a general problem of black crime if you don't make a conscious and daily effort to avoid it. In regards to publicizing these attacks, I support that because they're palatable representations of the undoubtedly large-scale, widespread war against white America (culture, direct crime, immigration, PC, etc...).

I don't get the feeling that you have any particular sympathy for the victims of crime. You're simply using this boy as an excuse to feel outraged -- it's entirely selfish.

You can see in my heart and mind? I haven't published 3 straight articles on other attacks, have I? This hit me for some reason and I don't appreciate you telling me about my own emotions.

When Chris Paul forgave the criminals who killed his grandfather, where was your sympathy then? You called Amy Biehl's father a "vile creature" for forgiving his daughter's killers.

Chris Paul undoubtedly has my sympathy. Amy Biehl's father does not because he's a liberal idiot who reflects the evil attitudes of modern leftism.

Because they're aware how little value anecdotes have?

You're right - the left never runs with a particular story as a means of condemning some evil (read: white and male) aspect of society. I mean, it's not like they used Duke lacrosse to discuss "class and race" for what seemed like an eternity. Every year, they latch onto to some story of "white men gone bad" and use it as the epitome of anecdotal evidence.

The reason no one takes you up on your "challenge" is that it's so obvious that no matter what anyone finds you're going to weasel out of admitting that you're wrong.

Simple: find at least 5 random gang beatings perpetrated by whites and/or violent white mobs (Unamused is finding 5 ones of blacks almost every day). The random beatings must be random and the violent mobs must either be flash robs or 50-60 kids blocking traffic and yelling stuff like, "kill all the black people." Pretty easy huh, since apparently this happens at the same rate amongst whites and whites are 6 to 1 in population. I'll even spot you one: Vancouver hockey riots.

As to your question concerning why flash mobs and random beatings are different: it's ostensibly clear. Civilized society expects criminality to be a subterranean phenomenon with some logic behind it - shady characters snooping around at night in rich neighborhoods. Contrastingly, mobs are, by definition, uncivilized. Random beatings are, by definition, random and illogical.

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OneSTDV said...

(continued):


Suffice it to say, I think anyone who considers your or Matt Drudge's writing racist is being completely reasonable.

Darn.

Holy shit. Now you're making excuses for lynching? For premeditated murder? That's pretty sick.

I support the death penalty, so if a white lynching was retaliatory in nature (for an offense like rape or murder), then there's no problem with it. And note that the number of lynchings is greatly exaggerated and actually more whites were victims too.

"The modern left cares about their narrative above all else, a narrative that dictates their beliefs, their self-aggrandizing moral posturing, and their nauseating reaction to violent acts like this."

You're describing only yourself.


Do I say one thing politically to make myself look englithened, then do another? Do I excuse violence because of society, excuse murderers because of their race?

further evidence that all you want to do is stroke your moral outrage-boner

If there's one thing that I agree with the left about, it's that moral outrage is sometimes justified. I can't believe anyone would disagree with that.

Phew...haven't done one of those with an anti-white leftists in awhile.

Anonymous said...

The urgent coaxing from the media for forgiveness or mitigation from this poor family is just absolutely disgusting.

Anonymous said...

Modern leftism is a highly dogmatic religion. Leftists react violently when you point out blatant deficiencies in the tenets of their 'faith'.

Anonymous said...

I guess after you beat a person to the brink of death with a few of your closest friends just remember to steal their wallet or iphone afterwards. The crime goes from attempted murder/hate crime to "jussa robbery".

Unamusement Park's piece from today cited a woman from Chicago who saw black savages defecating on the beach in Chicago prior to their other activities which included beating a white woman and a few white men.

Blacks have de-evolved to the point that they are unashamed to shit in front of hundreds of on-lookers.

ben tillman said...

Barbaric hatred & violence by white mobs beating, burning, lynching blacks, in the history of this state, far outnumbers the reverse. Who could offer an excuse for that?

Bullshit.

There were 156 lynching of blacks in South Carolina from 1882 to the present. Most of them were guilty of capital crimes. Others were guilty of lesser offenses, maybe like what Carter Strange suffered. Only a few of those blacks were innocent, and the number of innocent White South Carolinians killed by Blacks in the same time period is way, way higher.

ben tillman said...

If we're "cherry picking", then please provide us with alternative links/stories/articles showing groups of whites committing random mob violence against blacks.

And please don't rattle on and on about Emmett Till again. That was 50+ years ago.


And it wasn't a mob. It was Till's victim's husband and a few others.

Anonymous said...

Only a few of those blacks were innocent, and the number of innocent White South Carolinians killed by Blacks in the same time period is way, way higher.

Is there a untold history of lynching book or website or something? Not disagreeing, just curious.

Anonymous said...

I would have to disagree about Liberalism being Evil.
Evil has an end game it has a point even if that point is lost to us or it is hidden. When a serial murderer or rapist do what they do it is for sadistic pleasure and to remady a wrong committed(such as rage against one's mother).

Liberalism is a sickness there is no real end game there is no real point. The goals move the closer Liberals get to there idea world.

If for instance the Liberal idea is reached and everyone is a mud colored, culturless, homosexual, then who would the Liberals fight for? Would it be very conservative Islam? There is proof of that already.

The only real result of Liberalsim is destruction. Even a parsite tries to keep the host alive as long as possible to keep getting nutrients. Liberals on the other hand would love to see the World change immediately.

The fall and mutation of Communism is a prefect example of what has to happen in a Liberal society. The Soviet Union has fell and China is mutating to a more market based economy. In practicality they have taken the Liberal ideology as far as it could go.

MuayTyson

Anonymous said...

david
"You've already admitted, in your discussion with TUJ, that you're deliberately, dishonestly, exaggerating the problem of black crime in order to get a rise out of your readers."

Blacks have vastly higher rates of violent crime e.g. 12% of the population committing 50% of the murders.

The MSM cover this up and have been covering this up for 50 years.

The MSM claim any mention of the TRUTH about black violent crime is dishonest but no-one could be more dishonest on this subject than the MSM.

The current murder rate is roughly 2/3 off its peak because of a much higher incarceration rate for black criminals to partially match their much higher violent crime rate. If the MSM hadn't hidden the truth then this could have been done decades earlier and millions of victim of violent crimes wouldn't have been victims.

That blood is on the hands of the MSM.

.
anon

"The urgent coaxing from the media for forgiveness or mitigation from this poor family is just absolutely disgusting."

Contrast with how they are when it's a white perpetrator and a black victim. In those cases the MSM practically incites black revenge - even in the case of crimes that are centuries old.

OneSTDV said...

I wonder what percent of non-acquaintance murders blacks commit. Methinks its far higher than 50%. Throw in Hispanics there too and I wonder what the number is.

Anonymous said...

"I wonder what percent of non-acquaintance murders blacks commit. Methinks its far higher than 50%. Throw in Hispanics there too and I wonder what the number is."

Yes, i'd say that was pretty certain.

Anonymous said...

Is there a untold history of lynching book or website or something? Not disagreeing, just curious.

http://www.archive.org/details/LynchingHistoryAndAnalysis

Anonymous said...

HTML

Lynching: History and Analysis

Cornelius Troost said...

I first saw a flash mob in Louisville, KY, in 1962, when I attended a parade and watched helplessly as about 20 black teens ran through the crowd and ripped purses from ladies who screamed but could not retaliate.It was very unnerving to appreciate black mob psychology, which may simulate white mob psychology but for the fact that blacks are far more dominated by their limbic system than are whites. Thinking about Rwanda makes one wonder about parallels.Blacks can become wild animals far more easily and quickly.Imagine how often working-class white children are threatened or assaulted on busses or at school by groups of blacks. Blacks are very physical and group psychology operates to encourage their impulsiveness.

Dave is simply wrong to try to claim that flash mob violence is not clearly a black phenomenon. Whiskey and others are correct that race is the key factor and blacks are reinforced by media protection to see racial elements in all aspects of life. We whites must face the ugly reality that liberal protectors of black malfeasance and chaos perpetuate crimes against whites as well as daily insults on a wide scale.

The political scientist Robert Weissberg proposes that we somehow learn to live in this liberal hellhole but too much compromise could not bode well for whites.I just returned from a funeral in New Jersey, where I studied the landscape around Hillside, Newark, and Kean University. Jews once thrived in Hillside as a luxurious suburb but human refuse by the thousands now meander through the remains. I suspect that Jews mostly left by now. The entire state of NJ is full of ethnocentric enclaves and loaded with social problems from this "diversity overload." In one day I saw police patting down young black thugs in three different spots near Kean University, a place where Leftist Orthodoxy absolutely rules.

The deterioration of my NJ is moving forward inexorably. NJ has immense wealth and the whites continue moving Westward, but the Delaware River may make the commute rather taxing!! How far must they go to escape the human trash I saw in abundance. It is a sad fate but I saw Jews walking happily with ice cream cones amidst this human resource wasteland. I wonder if they walk the streets at night???

ben tillman said...

I wonder what percent of non-acquaintance murders blacks commit.

That's a great point, because that's what really matters. We can protect ourselves from other types of murder by not sleeping with other men's wives, not engaging in illegal businesses like drug smuggling, etc.

Engineer-Poet said...

Partly due to high energy costs, which have been deliberately engineered by America's first African executive branch.

I'm sorry, but this is risible.  First, when you're saying "energy" you really mean "oil".  Oil prices skyrocketed in the 70's (two oil-price shocks), spiked during wars since (notably Gulf War I), and doubled annually from 2005 to mid-2008 before the economic collapse cut demand.

I shouldn't need to mention what administration ran Washington from 2001 through the end of 2008.

US oil production (actually, extraction; none is actually being produced) peaked in 1970 (the USA was an oil exporter through 1948).  Obama has nothing to do with our collective decision to remain reliant upon an inadequate and shrinking domestic resource.

There would be enormous benefits to getting rid of US dependency on oil.  Not the least of these would be the collapse of the power of the Saudi Da'wa program, an end to its influence buying and the likely cutback or cessation of Muslim immigration to the USA.

Right now, when you fill up at the pump you're paying to submit yourself to Islam.

Dave said...

"I said the notion that blacks are invading white neighborhoods is exaggerated."

No, you said the danger of black crime was exaggerated.

"This hit me for some reason and I don't appreciate you telling me about my own emotions."

You mean, like you do? All the time? Cry me a river.

And I'm not reading your mind. I'm interpreting your behavior. You obviously don't have sympathy for the victims of violent crimes if the victims disagree with your politics. Liberals have it coming. You admitted as much, writing about Emily Guendelsberger. So, obviously, you don't automatically feel sympathy for human beings who suffer these attacks. First you have to verify that they're not liberals.

But, I kind of don't think you really feel any more sympathy than I do for Carter Strange. I think you feel anger, at liberals, and at blacks, for the usual misguided reasons, and recognize in Strange an excuse to vent that anger.

If you feel so sorry for him, why haven't you helped him, in any way, when you're in such a strong position to do so?

http://funds.gofundme.com/Carter-Strange-Fund

Dave said...

"I support the death penalty, so if a white lynching was retaliatory in nature (for an offense like rape or murder), then there's no problem with it."

No problem with torturing and murdering a citizen without trial? I mean, if you want to apologize for lynching, be my guest. I'm all for anything that destroys your credibility.

"Do I say one thing politically to make myself look englithened, then do another?"

Yes. See "Sympathy for victims of violent crime, pretended to have."

"Do I excuse violence because of society, excuse murderers because of their race?"

Yes. See above: "Lynching, excuses for."

"If there's one thing that I agree with the left about, it's that moral outrage is sometimes justified."

As a means, not an end.

"Simple: find at least 5 random gang beatings"

Ha, ha -- 5. Nice scientific number there. And if I find these, what does that PROVE? And if I can't, what does that PROVE?

"The random beatings must be random"

Define random.

"and the violent mobs must either be flash robs or 50-60 kids blocking traffic and yelling stuff like, "kill all the black people."

I mean, you can obviously make up enough rules that I could never possibly satisfy. But there's a problem, here. Are YOU going to stick to these rules? Carter Strange was ROBBED. It wasn't "random." No one shouted "kill all the white people." So if YOU don't stick to these rules, why should you ask anyone else to?

"mobs are, by definition, uncivilized."

So robbery is civilized?

"Phew...haven't done one of those with an anti-white leftists in awhile."

"Anti-white"! Ha. You're pretty far gone.

Nine-of-Diamonds said...

If you feel so sorry for him, why haven't you helped him, in any way, when you're in such a strong position to do so?

http://funds.gofundme.com/Carter-Strange-Fund

"If you really cared you'd do XYZ!"

Ah...nothing more touching than heartfelt moral appeals from our pet Negrophile.

Sadly for him the DASRAYCIS moral trump card just doesn't carry too much weight any more.

Plan B - resort to the "compashun" tactic used by every Proggie dimwit from Peter Singer to J. Kozol. It's been around forever (see Judas lecturing Christ on giving to the poor in Matthew 26).

Dave said...

"(see Judas lecturing Christ on giving to the poor in Matthew 26)"

When Judas raised objection to the lavishing of the oils, Jesus answered his objection. He was a teacher.

Not to compare OneSTDV's obligations to Christ's, but One has yet to explain why his professed compassion for Strange doesn't induce him to post a link that might help him out. Wouldn't it feel good to actually do good? One hasn't answered.

For myself, I don't profess my own compassion for Strange to be greater than Iscariot's for the poor.

Anonymous said...

david

"You obviously don't have sympathy for the victims of violent crimes if the victims disagree with your politics. Liberals have it coming. You admitted as much, writing about Emily Guendelsberger."

The black 12% of the population commits 50% of the murders.

I have NEVER heard the simple fact that the black 12% are responsible for 50% of the murders on the American MSM. The single most important factor in American violent crime has NEVER been mentioned.

Increased incarceration (against the full opposition of the anti-white left) has reduced the total number of murders to around 2/3 off the peak, which means more than 100,000 people were murdered who would not have been if that policy had been adopted earlier.

The main reason all those people died was because the media covered up the truth.

The media (and individuals who helped) are responsible for that bloodshed.

So it's not a question of having no sympathy with someone simply because they have a different political view. If someone who was otherwise liberal had espoused strong law and order policies and the right to self-defence etc i'm sure most people would sympathize if they became a victim.

It's having no sympathy for someone being a victim of violent crime if that person has championed a political view which led to 100,000+ avoidable murders.

Anonymous said...

"It's having no sympathy for..."

should have been

"It's having absolutely no sympathy whatsoever for..."

Anonymous said...

Dear Dave:

It is wonderful that you are commenting here. You are absolutely the best the left has to offer - your reasoning is as good an any leftist's and your intentions likewise. Your commitment to truth, reason, and peace surpasses Tim Wise, Stephen Jay Gould, Chairman Mao.

Anonymous said...

The black thugs are a parasitic scum group and need to be eradicated. Its that simple. We need a man like Vlad Tepes, Vlad the Impaler. He is the national hero of Romania. When he was in power, noone did such acts. There is a story that is true, in which he wanted to show people how he could stop thievery. He put a huge cup of pure gold in a public fountain in a town square. Everyone was welcome to drink from it, but, if anyone dared to steal it, they would be chopped into pieces after being decapitated/beheaded and hung. Noone stole the gold cup.

I am a Constitutionalist Libertarian, but, these no good parasites and whites who act out in the same way, need to be eradicated with cold hard justice. I believe victimless crimes should be freed and not prosecuted, but, all crimes of violence where someone is victimized should be dealt with with extreme harshness and examples are to be made of the scum bags. You should be allowed to do what you want with you own personal body and property but if someone else violates your person or property you have violated their human and Constitutional rights and are to be dealt with harshly. Simple and direct.