Guest Post
Guest Posts are now open for any day of the week and to anyone willing to submit one. The following Guest Post was submitted by Simon Grey, who blogs at Le Cygne Gris.
One of the more popular liberal dogmas in regards to discrimination in general is that one should “get to know everyone as an individual,” or some similar sounding claptrap. Of course, this sort of injunctive sounds good, and repeating it makes one feel good, especially if one is an impressionable youth. It is highly idealistic to say that all people should be treated only as individuals, and that no one should be treated as a statistic, and being highly idealistic is an ego boost for some people. It is wonderful to say that one’s intentions and desires are universally lauded and above reproach.
Unfortunately, this sort of idealism is pure, unbridled nonsense. It is nonsense because it is not in any way founded in reality. Getting to know someone takes time and has relatively high discovery costs.
Imagine, for a moment, that you are at a party with one hundred other people who are all strangers. Will you try to talk to everyone, or will you talk to random people until you encounter someone who interesting and entertaining and then spend as much time as possible with the interesting person? Most will simply try to find someone who is engaging and then spend time with him. Why? Because most recognize that they have a limited amount of time on their hands, and it is too valuable to waste on a bore.
This mindset is the foundation of virtually all discrimination. Emo kids, for example, tend to discriminate against non-emos, mostly because it is time-consuming to discover which non-emo kids are amenable to friendship or companionship. Of course, being amenable to friendship usually implies shared interests and values, and outward appearance is a signal of values. Furthermore, outward genetic markers (race and gender, among others) are signals for genetically-motivated interests and values. Stereotypes, to a limited extent, reflect the intrinsic values that are associated with genetic markers.
As such, women tend to have a disproportionately large number of female friends, males tend to have a disproportionately large number of male friends, blacks tend to have a disproportionately large number of black friends, whites tend to have a disproportionately large number of white friends, and so on. Each of these groups have realized, whether consciously one cannot be sure, that people of the same race and gender are more likely to share their interests. Therefore, it is prudent for one to spend more time socializing with one’s own “group,” so to speak, because doing so is the most efficient way to find like-minded people with whom to associate. This isn’t to imply, of course, that one could never find someone who shares one’s interests in another “group;” rather, it is more time-consuming to find another person with similar interests in another group. For what it’s worth, the sexual divide seems greater than the racial divide. [OneSTDV: Completely disagree with this statement.] (E.g. a white man would have more difficulty finding a woman who shared his interest in Olivia Wilde than finding a black man who shared his interest in Olivia Wilde.)
In addition to being time-consuming, getting to know someone carries risk. Imagine that you are walking down a dark alley at night when you see someone coming toward you. A quick glance at the approaching figure lets you know that the person is tall and most likely male. As you get closer to the person, you confirm that he is male and white. As you get closer still, you see that he is dressed like a wigger, is wearing brass knuckles, and has tattoos all over his body. Do you then begin to talk to him in order to see if he was in the boy scouts at some point in his life? Do you ask him if he goes to church?
One doesn’t ask questions of young men dressed like thugs while walking by one’s self at night because the odds of that young male actually being a violent thug are relatively high, and the costs associated with being in close proximity to young male thugs are also relatively high. In probability theory, this is known as expected cost. To determine expected cost, one multiplies the probability of an occurrence by its likely cost. In this case, there is a high probability that the stranger approaching you is a thug, and the costs of “interacting” with him are very high.
Thus, the cost of getting to know this person individually has very high probabilistic costs, and so the rational thing to do is avoid the approaching stranger, if possible. This cost is rarely taken into account, for it is often assumed that discrimination occurs in its most blatant forms during the light of day. The reality is that discrimination is considerably more complex, and based on a host of variables. In most cases, discrimination is quite rational. There are costs associated with all interpersonal interactions, although some are more obvious than others. To ignore these costs is foolish, and so it should come as no surprise that young, idealistic liberals do so on a regular basis.
In sum, it is obvious that discrimination happens for a reason. Getting to know people individually is costly and takes time. Discriminating against others, then, is simply a distasteful feature of a finite world.
Written by Simon Grey
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Guest Poster Simon Grey wrote:
In sum, it is obvious that discrimination happens for a reason. Getting to know people individually is costly and takes time. Discriminating against others, then, is simply a distasteful feature of a finite world.
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First off, thanks for this guest post. You are helping in making this site interesting.
Discriminating, indeed, is an essential shortcut that saves ones resources. In fact, it is an approach to living that has existed since time immemorial, for good reason.
I notice that you end with a kind of apology for 'discrimination' by saying it's a 'distasteful feature'. You are quite right from the indoctrinated viewpoint that younger generations have been brought up in. But it's a viewpoint that is at odds with all of human existence.
Teaching young white people to avoid 'discrimination' is part of the 'suicide curriculum' that they apparently need to learn in order to atone for sins of their race, according to the white haters. It's a plain old lie.
Far from being distasteful, it is an essential part of survival. If it means that you avoid certain people, well, that's the whole idea.
I've made a similar argument using cost/benefit anlysis regarding blacks and cab drivers in NYC. If I remember correctly, black males age 15-45 make up less than 10% of the population of NYC, but commit 85-90% of all assaults on cab drivers. There is no shortage of people clamoring for cabs.
So a driver can almost eliminate his chances of of being assaulted while only reducing his potential customer pool by only 10%, having essentially no effect on business.
He'd be stupid not to discriminate.
Of course, blacks discriminate against other blacks. e.g. black NYC cab drivers.
"For what it’s worth, the sexual divide seems greater than the racial divide."
Interesting observation.
While I have almost no interests in common with them, 95% of my friends are females of various races/ethnicities.
I think this is a post marriage thing.
Before I married 90% of my friends were white guys due to our similar interests.
"I notice that you end with a kind of apology for 'discrimination' by saying it's a 'distasteful feature'."
The reason it is considered distasteful is that it presumes that one will inadvertently "discriminate" against worthy folks. Alas, statistically that is actually very unlikely. More likely is that it will function as intended.
Also, how many of us would avoid talking about technology with the black guy who works with us at the office? Probably no one. If we found him reasonably intelligent, trustworthy etc., we would have no problem with him. It is random book of the tiresome or violent appearance that we wish to judge by its cover.
Simon Grey has offered us very good advice. In the real world we will occasionally pay a heavy price for misjudgments, but we cannot often spend inordinate amounts of time deciphering the verbal and non-verbal cues related to social interaction. Navigating the social realm requires caution, good judgment, and strong prejudice. Without predudices, we are vapid if not empty vessels subject to the clever manuvers of psychopaths and various misfits of lesser character who will readily prey upon us.
The great British conservative Theodore Dalrymple wrote a book called IN PRAISE of PREJUDICE, a book all of you should read from cover to cover. In it he makes a strong case for the kinds of prejudice that can help you succeeed in life because distinctions are critically important. If you know nothing about statistics, you are vulnerable to the cries of "discrimination" hurled at you by liberal zealots whose tricks can indeed hurt you. Once you read the latest crime statistics, for example, you will never again feel the same about the races.Without that "prejudice" you are a sitting duck for trouble.
Once you grasp the significance of the stupendous lie that is equality, you can move forward to help anti-immigration groups as well as conservative movements to slow or stop the vast waste of money on minority schooling. Bill Gates can throw away his millions, but we must divert the federal government from its dystopic mission to nowhere.
The Tampa Bay Rays discovered a new star when they made a big trade with the Chicago Cubs. They received a short, skinny guy named Sam Fuld, a very rare Jewish intellectual hiding under the skin of "Super Sam" the surprising star player. He immediately shocked all by making spectacular catches and hitting about .400 early on.
Sam Fuld defies all stereotypes but for the one about Jews being smart. He batted over .600 as a star at Phillips Exeter, the best private school in America. He was a star student who later graduated from Stanford with a B+ average in economics. He "has it all" but must hide his superiority because Americans now mindlessly accept the pervading zeitgeist of equality and basebally players are semi-literate cavemen mostly from places like the Dominican Republic.The culturally handicapped Manny Remirez quit the team over failed drug tests so Fuld had his golden opportunity. A skinny, white Jew replaces the instinctual Carbibbean natural athlete!!
To succeed in a dumb profession loved by millions will require some play acting by Fuld. He is living proof that some people "have it all" because the genetic lottery can indeed be very unfair. Over 100 years of psychometrics informs us of the harsh reality of inequality. To mislead the masses into liberal mythology is a national suicide. Stereotyping Jews as brilliant students is right on target, but Fuld is proof that some indeed "have it all." Equality of native capacity never existed and equality of outcome is a staggering lie made possible only by cheating. Prejudice is both natural and very useful if used properly. Without it you are in serious trouble.Knowledge, usually distributed very unequally, is a source of real power, but if your profession is baseball, better to hide your assets!
This is funny, because I was just reading an inane discussion thread about race and biology. The anti-racists kept angrily repeating the point that it makes no sense to classify people by race, because even if race is genetically determined then it's an imperfect classification at it would be better to just classify by genetics.
Of course it never seemed to occur to them, in their anti-racist fervor, that it's much easier to observe race than it is to test someone's DNA. And by much easier, I mean the difference between a casual glance and an expensive and still primitive lab test that takes several weeks.
In most cases, discrimination is quite rational.
It's also genetic. Discrimination is observed in children at about 3 years of age, well before any effects of socialising kick in.
Google up "homophily". Discriminatory bias, is part and parcel of human nature.
In most cases, discrimination is quite rational.
It's also genetic. Discrimination is observed in children from about 3 years of age, in all races, well before any effects of socialising kick in.
Google up "homophily". Discriminatory bias is part and parcel of human nature.
@katana- In a perfect world all resources would infinite, including human life and knowledge, which would render discrimination unnecessary. Since discrimination is necessary in this world but would not be necessary in a perfect world, it is correct to say that discrimination is distasteful or otherwise unwanted. That is the sense in which I meant that discrimination was distasteful.
@Van- that’s a good point as well. The direct cost of knowledge is high while the cost of ignorance is low. Discrimination is the logical behavior.
@silly girl- this was more of a general statement applied on a broad level (and I note One has taken exception to this). My point was that there were more interests that are gender-specific than there were interests that are race-specific. Guys tend to be interested in cars, girls tend to be interested in purses, etc. There are differences in interests on racial lines (I haven’t heard many white guys talking about booty, e.g.), but I would argue that gender is a better predictor of interest than race. I should probably have clarified this in the post, but I don’t think the gap between gender as a predictor and race as a predictor is that great, nor do I assert that race is not a predictor at all.
@Cornelius- for what it’s worth, I just finished reading that very book the other day. My review is here.
@mike- too funny. Leave to anti-racists to ignore reality in such a manner.
@SP-I wonder if the hardwiring occurred as a response to tribalism.
For Simon Grey:
One aspect of prejudice we have skimmed over is the role of all generalizations and stereotypes in human social interaction. Back in the turbulent 60's, we saw many books on "critical thinking" published in a society that was starting to see "critical thinking" as a liberal tool against establishment credos. Liberals were fascinated by this potentially valuable tool and pushed its widespread application.
Logic and critical analysis were found to be inhospitable diets for most Americans and soon this fad faded away. I wasted a year designing one such book for teachers but my California publisher eventually "canned" it. I was dismayed but the exercise of doing logic was a benefit I treasured despite the disappointment.
An example of unwarrented generalizations is the usual snapshot beliefs related to duifferent nations. The Germans are cold and analytical, the French are romantic, the Spanish are untrustworthy, the Chinese are clever and inscrutable, the Americans are ill-mannered. These are sweeping generalizations which hold a kernal of truth.Stereotyping is the opposite because you use the generaliztion to prejudge a single individual who is American or Chinese.
Liberals use racism as a weapon against any who would think independently about group traits. They sharply defend blacks and Hispanics as "equal" to whites because they bought into this powerful myth and cannot gain political power without it. Thus, all who dare to stereotype or generalize are deemed "racist." Unfortunately, the truth about group behaviors and values is not always pleasant and rationalizing only promotes more of the same. That blacks commit inordinate amounts of crime is a fact. Liberals defend blacks with a whole array of excuses such as drug abuse. Many blacks are really victims of anti-drug campaigns rather than "pure" crimes. Alas, drugs such as cocaine and meth are dangerous substances in themselves and can only make life much more difficult for drug abusers.That the black community is rife with addiction is indeed a social problem that is not helped by attempts to decriminalize black behavior.
Knowledge is the best means for reducing the errors you might make via logical fallacy. All of us make occasional errors but having statistical data on hand, as do people like Stave Sailer and the Inductivist, reduces greatly the chance for large mistakes.Logical thinking comes more naturally to high IQ folks compared to their IQ counterparts further down the scale. If you feel somewhat ashamed to think negatively about a group that is considered much more deviant and anti-social, or a religion that is loaded with dangerous practitioners, better to base your actions on this solid evidence than to worry about their inclination to call you a racist. We need to know our enemies even when some amoung them are friends.
Simon Grey said...
@katana- In a perfect world all resources would infinite, including human life and knowledge, which would render discrimination unnecessary. Since discrimination is necessary in this world but would not be necessary in a perfect world, it is correct to say that discrimination is distasteful or otherwise unwanted. That is the sense in which I meant that discrimination was distasteful.
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You have made the definition of the everyday word 'distasteful' into a 'perfect world' definition. Why do that? It just creates a word meaning, semantic, muddle, something that reminds me of Alice in Wonderland.
I suspect that you just wanted to play it a bit safe, leave an out, by saying that though discrimination is natural and useful, it's a necessary evil, 'distasteful' kind of thing.
The twisting and vilification, of the word 'discrimination' over many decades is all part and parcel of the process that is leading white society on a course of self destruction through tolerance of mass third world immigration.
One way to reverse that is to rescue and bring back commonsense meaning to words that have been highjacked.
Discrimination is very, very good. Every society, except confused white societies, think so and act so.
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