Monday, February 28, 2011

Liberalism as an Excuse for Black Dysfunction

Paul at Stuff Black People Don't Like (link to purchase his new book) writes often about what he has deemed "Black Run America (BRA)." In a recent post, he offered a definition of the BRA:
This, ladies and gentlemen, is the reality of Black Run America; a nation where every institution is entirely devoted to protecting and promoting the interests of Black people above all others.

Every facet of life is governed by the principals of Black Run America, which means every institution must promote Black interests above all others.
In an e-mail, Paul adds:
Blacks don't run America, of course, but America is run explicity for Blacks. WIth Obama in office, that fact became obvious.
I wouldn't go as far as Paul does in reducing liberalism (after all, that's what we're talking about) to white supplication towards blacks. But his notion of the BRA connects to on an important idea that I first put forth last summer - that American liberalism is the ultimate solution to the "black problem". While Paul fastidiously describes the direct concessions whites make to blacks, I've argued that liberalism is an indirect way to do so.

We can't reduce American liberalism to one particular objective or one specific value, but the "black problem" has always been central to progressive initiatives since the mid 1800's. Prior to the great intellectual Enlightenment of the mid 20th century that supposedly dispelled archaic notions of race differences, everyone knew blacks acted differently. Of course, the intellectual community shifted, with black pathology and dysfunction blamed solely on white racism and other external forces. In fact, without immediately condemning whites for causing it, one can't even discuss the dysfunctional behavior of the black community. The taboo nature of this statistical data spurred controversy over Daniel Moynihan's seminal 1965 report on the failing black family as well as a large number of examples throughout the years.

But liberals then concocted another, perhaps more clever, plan for excusing black pathology - normalize the behavior and undermine societal shame associated with the dysfunction. Any minimally informed liberal knew that blacks had significantly higher rates of welfare use, out of wedlock births, sexual activity, sexually transmitted diseases, divorce, absentee fathers, crime, and drug use. So instead of trying to correct these problems by imposing shame through a strong set of moral values, liberals just adopted them into their grand scheme of subverting those strong moral values.

Today, liberals champion all of the above: complete sexual openness, the notion that criminals are victims or completely redeemable, divorce, drug use, and welfare and other government handouts, amongst many other black-related issues. Notice a pattern here. Instead of accepting the pragmatic and moral importance of core traditional values, liberals attempted to undermine them in an effort to free blacks from reproach. They subverted the moral order so that blacks (and women, but that's another post) could not be criticized for bad behavior.

So black criminals became victims instead of amoral predators. Welfare handouts became a "right" instead of a shameful reflection of personal laziness. Out of wedlock births and absentee fathers became part of our "expanding" definition of the family instead of illustrating one's obvious lack of probity.

Unfortunately though, the strategy has somewhat backfired in two ways. Society has changed and accepted these harmful liberal values. And this has clearly affected all racial groups, including blacks, with rates of out of wedlock births skyrocketing since the 1950's. So blacks, no longer subservient to a white culture that shames bad behavior, have gotten even worse. All the pathologies present amongst the black community, including drug use, out of wedlock births, divorce, and crime, have increased since the advent of post 60's liberalism (perhaps they have since fallen due to the controversial Freakonomics abortion argument and/or higher rates of incarceration). Second, despite all the liberal posturing, everyone still regards black communities as rampant with dysfunction. No honest white person, obviously one has to reside outside the Ivory Tower and its annexes like Evanston and Vermont, looks at the black community and excuses welfare moms, criminals, drug abusers, or "hip-hop hos". Maybe they won't discuss it as the next dinner party, but liberalism definitely hasn't clouded their thought process that much.

36 comments:

IHTG said...

One of the most damaging things about America's relationship with its black minority is how it's affected the perception of other designated minorities.
So many Americans, consciously or unconsciously, treat every minority as if they were black. Mexicans, Muslims, they're all just a sort of African-American, right? All are suffering from "racism" and need to be invited into the West and given welfare and affirmative action.

Jay M said...

Liberal thinkers as far back as the 19th century believed that English people could remain English even after assimilating other races and ethnic groups. They also believed that the immigrants and even blacks would become similar to Anglo-Saxons.

The Lamarckians believed that people of all races would be just like them in the future.

Camlost said...

Does anyone remember John Kerry's memorable campaign speech at a black church where he was asked about the high rate of incarceration amongst blacks. His reply: "that's unnaccepatable, but it's not their fault!!".

http://www.capitalismmagazine.com/culture/racism/3822-conservatives-liberals-and-blacks.html

Anonymous said...

Oh for the love of Pete...

People that think like you should be beaten on principle.

Blacks have endured and are still enduring horrible amounts of abuse and denigration. White men are the most overprivileged people in earth.

How can you sit there with a straight face and say that "black people run America"?

Jay M said...

"White men are the most overprivileged people in earth."

When one group puts the most work into improving the world's standard of living, infrastructure, life-expectancy, and food production because of free market capitalism and the science allowed to flourish within such a system they earn privilege.

People are by default immoral and self-interested at the expense of others, yet, countries composed of mostly Europeans have the most generous and unconditional immigration policies (which needs to stop), and western medicine, capitalism, vehicles, and food preservation techniques have been making their way to the developing world for decades. Our life expectancy enhancing inventions, combined with the developing worlders' penchant for having oversized families, contributes to overpopulation.

OneSTDV said...

How can you sit there with a straight face and say that "black people run America"?

Can you read? Here's a quote from the post:

Blacks don't run America, of course, but America is run explicity for Blacks.

Camlost said...

And with Kaddafi in the news lately, don't forget his offer to prevent the establishment of a "black Europe" by having Libya stem the flow of "starving and ignorant" black migrants through North African and into Europe... all for the low cost of 4 billion Euro per year...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11139345

Anonymous said...

"Blacks have endured and are still enduring horrible amounts of abuse and denigration."

Yeah, at the hands of their own kind.


"White men are the most overprivileged people in earth."

Blame Gaia and her selection process.

Days of Broken Arrows said...

"White men are the most overprivileged people in earth."

Someone needs to "deconstruct" the concept of white privilege and explain that if whites benefit from something, it's because they worked hard to invent and implement it.

Of course, liberals always denigrate achievement when it comes from the "wrong" group.

Anyway, how does anonymous explain the massive financial and scholastic success of Asians? They're relatively new to this country, yet now lead in a myriad of areas and have leapfrogged over others in terms of success.

Is there now "Asian privilege?"

OneSTDV said...

Best thing to do is ignore the troll. If anyone ever uses the phrase "white privilege", they're basically past the point of no return.

Californian said...

People that think like you should be beaten on principle.

So you advocate violence as a means to suppress dissent?

Blacks have endured and are still enduring horrible amounts of abuse and denigration.

Name a single law in the USA which discriminates against blacks.

And do you think that affirmative action, minority grants, black studies departments, government black business programs, "diversity" indoctrination, welfare payments to single black mothers, "hate crime" laws, and all the rest are"abuse and denigration?"

What about Hollywood's portrayal of blacks as heroes in any number of movies? And white males as villains and imbeciles?

Heck, the USA was willing to hand over South Africa to blacks on a silver platter.

When will you make an end of complaining?

White men are the most overprivileged people in earth.

So?

I like my privilege.

I will go to war to defend it.

What about you?

not a hacker said...

Did you know that you're not allowed to talk to blacks? I'm not kidding. Black people now see this is one of their basic entitlements. If anyone tries to say anything to them that rises beyond abject deference, they are at immediate risk for a beatdown. Black girls, for example, will get on their cellphones and call in reinforcements if you piss them off somehow. I once got into the most minor of beefs with a black 15year old in a basketball game, and he called his big brother and told him to "bring the gun." Older brother showed up, and turned out to have the wisdom of Moses. He asked me what happened, shrugged it off, and told his brother not to call him again unless it was serious. But you see the inclination.

Kylie said...

"People that think like you should be beaten on principle."

Typical lefty, answering an opinion s/he doesn't like with a call to physical violence and trying to pass it off as a principled response.

sth_txs said...

I recall reading the book Gang Leader for a Day. Taking what he said at face value, the people in the projects are their own worst enemy.

We've spent much money on this problem and there is still this vocal group that gripes perpetually about it.

Also, I'm kind of tired of this 'helping the poor' since most of them, regardless of color, have this lack of thought regarding the future and act accordingly. Why bother helping?

Anonymous said...

Liberals intentionally ruined the black family with welfare payments to the mothers.


I cannot emphasize the point enough that we treat women (of all races) like underwritten children in this nation.

Get pregnant with no job? Nothing to worry about dear. We will put you in a public housing project. We will give you free medical care. We will find the man you tell us got you pregnant and make him pay 20% of his income to you for the next 20 years, plus you will get his medical insurance if his is better than medicaid. We will give your bastard child free breakfasts and lunches at school, so you are only really responsible to feed him one meal a day. We will subsidize you go to go back and further your education. If you get on a waiting list, and can come up with roughly $300-a-month, we will set you up in a suburban house. You can say you are having anxiety problems (being a single mother and all), and one of our doctors will give you a prescription for drugs like xanax or soma that you can turn around and sell to come up with that $300. Dont forget, best of all, we will feed you with food-stamp debit cards, and give you some free money every month called Aid-To-Families-With-Dependent-Children, heretofore known as a "welfare check". New baby? We have a program called WIC to buy its formula, diapers, and baby food. But you go out there and be responsible now. Forget the fact we have offered to house you, school you, school your offspring, feed you and your offspring, give you free health care, and even (basically) give you some free drugs you can sell to your neighbors in a kind of very perverted "in-kind" benefit. Dont worry, men are paying for all of it.


Dont look at this offer and decide to have "yo baby"***** this way.





"yo baby"......have you ever been around a gaggle of black girls? They use this phrase even when none of them have a kid yet. "Yo baby" to them is simply a guaranteed right, underwritten by the state, to have a baby, paid for by the taxpayer. They already realize that they are picking out "da baby daddy" that they want for "yo baby" at a young age, depriving it of a father.

Anonymous said...

Cnt....


I think the destruction of the black family was an act of conscious intention from far-left-liberal social engineers who would use the results as a benchmark for others to acculturate to.

Marx wanted to destroy the traditional nuclear family and called for a "legalized community of women". He wasn't kidding. The fifties and sixties academic radicals who designed these original welfare policies were still very much communist in influence. This was the height of the cold war, and this was the 'exciting new experiment in living' back then. Think about it, boundless sexual freedom, and the state picks up the tab?
Once the predictable results came back in, and black test scores and grades plummeted to profound depths (even though they were certainly lower to begin with), you can simply say its proof of how racist the rest of society is that all of its public-school-children aren't scoring so low. Blacks gave ivory-tower liberals the low-benchmark they needed to argue that this society was irredeemably racist and must be fundamentally changed to rectify this wrong. Their malperformance is used as a evidence of this assertion. Its a win-win situation for lefty rhetoriticians.


Meanwhile, the elites own kids are in (you guessed it), private schools, shielded from all of it.

Anonymous said...

"Also, I'm kind of tired of this 'helping the poor' since most of them, regardless of color, have this lack of thought regarding the future and act accordingly. Why bother helping?"

It is like feeding hungry strays. It actually increases the problem instead of fixing it.

Honky Dory said...

Those who are most "shocked" by people like OneSTDV who observes and comments on the obvious are those who have never lived in close proximity to blacks; or not close enough for them to be affected by their general behavior.

My old stomping grounds used to be White with an adjacent city being black. Over the last few years blacks have been moving into the White neighborhoods, and "coincidentally" the crime rates have skyrocketed. Recently two blacks in their 20s were caught breaking into a White man's house, in which the White man held them up with a shotgun until police arrived. Local TV stations made it to the scene as well (he shot their tires out). A lady asked one of the thugs why they were in THIS town robbing (because the town is mainly White, I suspect the lady with the mic didn't realize she made an un-PC realistic observation), and he replies "because they have nice sh*t".

Anyway, the story seemed to be that we should feel sorry that blacks have to travel across town to steal nicer sh*t. White have the good jobs and nice houses, so it's their fault blacks steal from them.

Whiskey said...

The Spartans destroyed the family. They wanted a warrior caste that would neither rule them in a dynasty and would protect them from enemies outside. For about 700 years they could accurately boast that they had neither been conquered nor been ruled by tyrants. Of course, the cohort state-run child-rearing (heavily gay too btw) had its price: SLAVERY of the helots and vicious murder sprees practiced against them.

So the prejudice against the nuclear family is nothing new. Plato wanted the state to raise children to prevent dynasties also.

Lefties are basically, Puritan/Progressives. Capable of extreme communal violence against "thought crimes" that threaten the "order" of the community. They hung elderly female Quaker preachers in the 1690s, and today engage in violence against modern day "sinners."

My response to the troll would be that moral appeals and threats are old hat. White people are ALREADY a functional and oppressed minority, in their own country, by means of an oppressive elite that hates them and wants them removed. White people are now starting to act like minorities, and the basic question of alliance based on ethnicity and skin color is the INEVITABLE RESULT of being a minority.

If Lefties/Non-Whites want Whites to act with noblesse oblige and maunder on about "White privilege" then Whites better damn well HAVE that privilege and be majorities, by huge margins (about 85% of the population). Whites at 65% of the population and dropping don't care about anything but fighting, in whatever means is most agreeable, for keeping positions and power. Because they know well the brutal treatment they can expect from non-Whites as minorities in their own country.

There are historical examples of majority populations quickly turned into minorities, and oppressed. It has been called colonialism and imperialism, and the subjects quickly turned into minorities fought hard and long. Given wealth, income, education, and military disparities (the US military is almost entirely White and all-volunteer) a brutal spoils fight over who gets what money spent on them and who wields power is not likely to be pretty. Whites are not technologically, military backward Amerindians, nor sub-Saharan Africans in the 19th Century.

America is not South Africa. Whites are still the majority (in SA a tiny minority), and have no where else to run to unlike SA. Guilt over Slavery and Segregation is a non-renewable resource just about played out.

Moreover, "White Privilege" only describes folks like Robert E. Lee. Impoverished Northern and Southern Hillbillies, immigrants from Ireland, Italy, Poland, Germany, and other European countries had no privilege. And don't carry a lick of guilt.

It is far more accurate to talk of Black racism, violence, lynchings (Reginald Denny on national TV at Florence and Normandy), the acquittal of OJ by a nearly all-Black jury (and Black celebration of a Black guy getting away with a double murder of White people), and Black Privilege.

Michael Vick if he had been White would be in prison for twenty years. His Black skin got him an out.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...(2/28/2011 9:51 AM)
"Blacks have endured and are still enduring horrible amounts of abuse and denigration. White men are the most overprivileged people in earth."

If whites are over-privileged then why do Asian Americans have an income 20% higher than whites? More interestingly IMHO why do Asians make double the income of blacks?

Table A. Median Household Income
(in 2009 dollars)
Asian $65,469
White (non-Hispanic) $54,461
Black $32,584
www.census.gov

The education system, controlled by the liberal establishment, teaches Americans that whites are at the top of the SES ladder. Liberals don't want white people to know the truth. The reason is obvious.

If white people knew that they were not at the top then why feel sorry for Blacks who are at the bottom? Furthermore the success of Asians is proof that Black people failed by their own hand and Whitey had nothing to do with it. Yikes that's the last thing Liberals want to happen.
***White men losing their white guilt.***

This is why the Asian model minority story is always treated as if it's some type of myth or stereotype instead of hard statistical FACT.
//
Many here may have remember the infamous WSJ "Why Chinese Mothers Are Superior" story.

As disturbing as AMY CHUA (asian tiger mom) may be, she unwittingly did us a favor. She did more to educate mainstream society more so than any HBD blog that Asians while minorities are certainly NOT economically disadavantged.

Anonymous said...

That book cover is hideous and amateur. The authors really need a decent graphic design job to market their engaging writing.

Chris said...

I think the destruction of the black family was an act of conscious intention from far-left-liberal social engineers

So was the creation of the black family, which is akin to an artificial transuranic element like Fermium or Nobelium, which requires tons of energy to produce but naturally decays within minutes or hours.

Jay M said...

"Lefties are basically, Puritan/Progressives."-Whiskey

Presbyterianism has a heavy Puritan influence.

jerry123 said...

"We can't reduce American liberalism to one particular objective or one specific value"

Larry Auster does, and does a pretty good job, too:

"The answer is simple: the highest liberal principle is the non-discriminatory inclusion of all peoples and cultures. That principle transcends any concern about possible economic harm to some blacks.

Or, to put the same idea in more direct and brutal terms: the highest liberal principle is the destruction of white America. That principle transcends any concern about blacks’ economic well-being—even for the blacks themselves."

http://amnation.com/vfr/

"Blacks don't run America, of course, but America is run explicitly for Blacks."

Here SBPDL doesn't get its own premise. BRA isn't run for Blacks, it's run for Jews/White Liberals who use Blacks as tools and weapons. Blacks are the political and physical stormtroopers of the Left.

Anonymous said...

OneSTDV,

I had an idea about a Euro-American anti-poverty-scholarship organization a few days ago.


Well, something like that has actually now happned (via Drudge), "Lookie-here":

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1361139/Texas-group-launches-scholarship-white-men-ONLY--need-equal-shot.html


A Texas non-profit group (look at their pictures! So normal-well-adjusted white people, it must make liberals furious) has launched a scholarship fund for white men ONLY.

Very interesting indeed.

Honky Dory said...

To dude talking about the White male only scholarship... Take a look again. The scholarship is nothing but a PC BS scholarship.

They say you must be 25% "Caucasian". Hell, 50% of Blacks are 25% White. Obama would qualify.

It's a nice try, but these White people are still capitulating to PC by making sure even non-Whites can be eligible, even if ostensibly, for the money.

Anonymous said...

A quick couple of misconceptions to get out:

1. I know the AUTHOR of SBPDL. It's only one person. That person is very young.

2. That person really appreciates the plugs from this site.

3. That person understands the so-called JQ.

Great discussion here though and its cool to see other people talking about "Black Run America"

Anonymous said...

The "Great Society" was the worst thing ever to happen to Blacks in the USA. Before it, most blacks wanted to get into the middle class. Middle class blacks wanted into the larger arena. Then came the "Great Society".

Liberals decry Nixon's Southern Strategy, but it's almost as if those reactionary Southern Democrats planned this mess.

Anonymous said...

White culture has deteriorated too. Is there any shame among whites for premarital sex,out of wedlock births and living together? No.

"We will find the man you tell us got you pregnant and make him pay 20% of his income to you for the next 20 years"

Shouldn't he? Why should I pay for someone else's kid?

Anonymous said...

"When one group puts the most work into improving the world's standard of living, infrastructure, life-expectancy, and food production because of free market capitalism and the science allowed to flourish within such a system they earn privilege."

In other words white MALES are the people who have made this otherwise unpleasant planet even remotely palatable to live on for humans.

Anonymous said...

"We will find the man you tell us got you pregnant and make him pay 20% of his income to you for the next 20 years"

Shouldn't he? Why should I pay for someone else's kid?


I think the key words are "the man you tell us got you pregnant". In other words, just accept her say-so, with no evidence.

Anyway, we shouldn't be paying for anyone's kids but our own. End welfare now.

OneSTDV said...

I think the key words are "the man you tell us got you pregnant". In other words, just accept her say-so, with no evidence.

I read a feminist (I think Roissy linked to it) that said paternity tests were misogynist. And that whomever the woman said was the father should have to pay child support - sans any evidence that he was actually the father. She couched it in terms of a "woman's right to choose".

Anonymous said...

LOL, yeah, a woman's right to choose her mark. If that doesn't totally discredit feminism in the public eye, I don't know what else will. Seriously, how much longer will our society tolerate this vicious, batshit, horrendously destructive ideology?

Anonymous said...

OneSTDV don't forget that these women have sex with boyfriends, have sex buddies, short-term relationships and open relationships but when it comes to a husband they either treat him badly or don't have sex with him. Isn't this some sick of moral inversion where good is bad and bad is good?

OneSTDV said...

Isn't this some sick of moral inversion where good is bad and bad is good?

I'd say that's a pretty good description of liberalism.

Olave d'Estienne said...

Yes. Three definitions of leftism:

1. Socialism, plain and simple. Expansions in state control culture and economics, and defense of those expansions.

2. Inversion of values, a la the last post. Affirmative action, telling the smart kids not to fight back against the bullies, free health care for criminals, etc.

3. Treating humans as machines and/or tools, and acting as if government were a hard science.

All compatible, none quite the same.