A few commenters took issue with my argument and blasted my presumed lack of respect for statistical rigor. I agreed somewhat and thus specified my approach should be applied almost exclusively to those fields not inundated with potential bias, like physics, astronomy, and engineering. I didn't illustrate my point further, namely that a layperson could have a very hard time meandering through all the specious data available. While those of us in the reactionary sphere, the iconoclasts who've justifiably rejected much of mainstream "wisdom", understand the basics, a person who hasn't yet taken the red pill could easily find research buttressing the mainstream. In almost every post on a controversial issue, I try to embed links to a few research papers supporting my arguments, but even I must admit that someone on the other side could do just the same.
So let's say someone has just discovered the paleo diet. He simply doesn't understand how the opposing paradigm, the one that lauds vegetarian, high-carb, low-fat as optimal, could promote such wrong information, how this lie could disseminate so thoroughly throughout society. A curious sort, he goes online to consider the data both ways and he starts with what he knows - the vegetarian diet is the best. Here's a sampling of what he'll find:
The Mayo Clinic promotes vegetarian diet as healthy alternative, including phytate-heavy beans, six servings of grains per day, incomplete-protein nuts, and spaghetti.Of course, one could also find plenty of research supporting the paleo diet and debunking nutritional myths like the connection between total cholesterol and heart disease as well as almost startingly quotes like this from the former president of the American College of Cardiology:
Website containing a large amount of research promoting health of vegetarian diet:A significant body of population-based research documents the health benefits of a vegetarian diet. For example, a paper published in 1999 summarized the results of a study associating diet with chronic disease in a group of nearly 35,000 Seventh day Adventists living in California. The members of the group who followed a vegetarian diet (defined as eating no red meat, poultry, or fish)had lower incidences of many diseases, including obesity, hypertension, diabetes, arthritis, colon cancer, prostate cancer, and ischemic heart disease than the nonvegetarians (Fraser, 1999). Also in 1999, Key, et al., analyzed the combined results from five studies involving a total of more than 76,000 people that compared the incidence of disease among vegetarians (defined as eating no red meat, poultry or fish) to that of nonvegetarians with similar lifestyles. Mortality from ischemic heart disease was 24% lower in vegetarians than nonvegetarians (Key, et al).Study showing a Low-Fat Vegan Diet Improves Glycemic Control and Cardiovascular Risk Factors in a Randomized Clinical Trial in Individuals With Type 2 Diabetes
Famous China Study by scholars at Cornell and Oxford claiming eating animal products leads to significant increase in modern disease (see destruction of this study here)
American Dietetic Association on vegetarian diet:The results of an evidence-based review showed that a vegetarian diet is associated with a lower risk of death from ischemic heart disease. Vegetarians also appear to have lower low-density lipoprotein cholesterol levels, lower blood pressure, and lower rates of hypertension and type 2 diabetes than nonvegetarians. Features of a vegetarian diet that may reduce risk of chronic disease include lower intakes of saturated fat and cholesterol and higher intakes of fruits, vegetables, whole grains, nuts, soy products, fiber, phytochemicals.
The low-fat, high-carbohydrate diet may well have played an unintended role in the current epidemics of obesity, lipid abnormalities, type 2 diabetes, and metabolic syndromes.Now, I can almost guarantee each vegetarian study has an obvious flaw, usually that heavy meat-eaters tend to also eat lots of bad foods (think of the people at McDonald's). Essentially, none of these studies adequately compare the two major nutritional paradigms: low-fat/high-carb vs. high-fat/high-protein. And even I'll admit a vegetarian diet low in processed foods is a step-up from the typical American diet that includes meat but also a ton of horrible extras.
Of course, one could look at the data itself, but one can't expect a layperson to wade through the endless amount of data out there. And even if he had the time to do so, how many are capable of understanding the relevant arguments, dissecting faulty scholarship, or having the fortitude to reject the mainstream's maxims based on his own skepticism? In the end, it's exceedingly difficult because so much data exists on both sides. And that's why I consider commonsense, informed by paleo/evolutionary wisdom (generally defined) and anecdotal observation, so powerful.
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As a political science PhD candidate with an emphasis in quantitative methods, I think I have a greater knowledge of the kind of statistics used by contemporary social scientists than your average person.
That being said, I will go ahead and second any reservations you have about statistical arguments, at least where social research is concerned. When people say that they just want to know what the "data says," they are ignoring the fact that most regression models allow the researcher considerable discretion. In the kinds of models you see in most social science journals (OLS and its many variations, limited dependent variable models, etc.), it's up to the scholar to determine the direction of the causal arrow -- that is, what is the dependent vs. the independent variables. This should be driven by theory, but an incorrect theory can turn up statistically and substantively significant results if the model is misspecified (for example, if an important independent variable is omitted, or the causal arrow is facing the wrong direction). Derbyshire undoubtedly has the kind of statistical training to catch these kinds of mistakes, but your average journalist is likely to take it all at face value.
Flip through any of the major academic social science journals, and you will see table after table "proving" things that readers of this blog would likely find laughable. This is not to say that statistical arguments are without value, but I do think it's important to use common sense when evaluating statistical arguments.
I first chose to take the side of psychometrics instead of liberally biased studies
because I was impressed that psychometric predictions had been backed by decades, if not a century, of data.
First with using the IQ test to find out who would need extra help followed by extensive use and studies by the military in World War 1.
These results in the field were consistent over decades from varying sources like schools, the military,employers, etc.
Not much room for bias when you have so many studies from different sources saying the same thing
time and time again.
This made IQ testing in it's many forms of standardized tests credible to me.
Whereas the liberally biased conclusions in seemed relatively new and without numerous studies to back it up.
And it's hard not to see PC studies coming with new conclusions/excuses each month or year.
Or that when things like parental income have been controlled for, the liberal studies are easily disproved.
Yes, it's true that a layman can have trouble seeing if the liberal source is true but info on the history of psychometrics(just IQ) shows it's much more reliant.
I'm not well versed in diets so I can't say the same thing for them.
A similar comparison on the fallibility of poorly designed studies could be found in gun ownership/danger propaganda so oft-peddled by the left.
Ive seen left wingers aggressively argue that you are endangering your family by owing a gun, and that homes with guns are more likely to see the residents of those homes injured or killed by those guns.
Yup, that sure is true. People who live in very dangerous areas tend to want to own a gun. Its still a dangerous area. If we could all afford to live in a place like this, http://www.thegovernorsclub.com/layout10.asp?id=187&page=4342 that had an entrance like this,
http://www.civilconstructors.com/images/fp/governorsclub/governors_club_brentwood_1.jpg
(there are guards in the building that check every car, you are not allowed in if you aren't invited, and you cannot just "drive around to look at houses"), then few people would probably need guns to defend their homes in dangerous areas.
Liberals know they are lying out the wazoo when they make these arguments, and if they were caught living in a dangerous part of town, Im pretty sure 90% of them would buy a gun to keep in the nightstand, but you'll never hear them admit it.
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I misunderstood your original argument and agree with you about the difficulties ordinary people face in trying to untangle competing claims of diet, etc. The social sciences are loaded with research that is confusing because one can find studies on opposite sides of an issue. Statistics is tedious reading and many social science practitioners are not mathematical whizzes like J. Derbyshire. The heavy hand of political bias today really places the social sciences in great danger because skepticism is triggered daily by the efforts of True Believers to make it look like real science is behind a variety of crazy claims. You are right to be very cautious.
Ironically, during the Sixties Revolution there was widespread interest in logic and scientific thinking. Robert Ennis of Cornell did several wonderful books on logical thinking,something he wished would become part of teacher training!! Books by Max Black, Bertrand Russell, and assorted professors of philosophy competed for attention. I was so excited that I allowed myself to be persuaded to do a critical thinking book for Wadsworth Publishing in California. I labored to produce something that would engage prospective teachers and improve their thinking. I received a call when I was about to launch the final chapter to the effect that the editors decided to can the project because their "survey" yielded a negative response from teachers.Since then the nation has only gone downhill intellectually.
In the 40's, 50's, and 60's many book emerged dealing with statistics, logic, and scientific method. Speaking personally, one book stood out as a primer on all of these topics. It was An Introduction to Critical Thinking by W. H. Werkmeister, Head of the Philosophy Department at the University of Southern California. The publication date is 1947! This ancient book is loaded with models of sound thinking and it includes a treatment of statistics.
As America was swept by the liberal meme of equality and "standards" deteriorated, one saw the disappearance of rigorous books on critical thinking. Indeed, my last visit to Barnes and Noble made me almost sick to see the science section reduced to almost nothing. Ever study American culture via Borders and Barnes and Noble?? Try it. Recall even 10 years ago when both stores had a huge variety of classical music? They did. Now they have almost none. Science? They once were loaded with a rich variety of popular books but today almost nothing. America's decline is clearly reflected in events at these stores.Iam not sure that statistics was ever a popular topic but in the "good old days" may intellectual gladiators went forth to teach the masses. At least we tried.
And that's why I consider commonsense, informed by paleo/evolutionary wisdom (generally defined) and anecdotal observation, so powerful.
Fair enough but please still try to incorporate as much empirical data to support your common sense as much as possible because "commonsense" about human behavior can often be wrong if not informed by data.
For example, commonsense informed alone by movies and TV would tell you that teenagers are more sexualized than ever.
But, in reality teenage sexual activity plateaued in the late 1980's (Agnostic summarized the data on teenage sexual activity in his classic GNXP post "Your Generation was Sluttier"). Even black teenage pregnancies have been on the decline.
So "commonsense" about American teenagers' sexual activity is largely incorrect, movies and TV shows not withstanding.
Also, "hypergamy" doens't really exist. The number of sexual partners women have hasn't changed much over recent decades.
The PUA community insists hypergamy is real, but I don't really mind that they can't back up their points about hypergamy with much evidence because I expect pickup artists to sensationalize and be over the top when it comes to self promotion. Nor do PUA's claim to be conservatives.
Funny that Cornelius Troost should bang on about the lack of rigor in public education today. I seem to recall Cornelius asserting several times (on this very blog, in fact) that homeschooled kids are a bunch of unsocialized shut-ins desperately in need of the group dynamics that public schools provide...yet never once did he provide even a scrap of evidence for his assertions.
Physician, heal thyself.
They are ignoring the fact that most regression models allow the researcher considerable discretion. In the kinds of models you see in most social science journals
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