In a recent comment thread, a liberal interloper brought up the purported HBD/conservative paranoia about black men and white women. According to these obnoxious visitors, conservative racial opinions primarily stem from a fear that the sexual marketplace for white women is becoming more competitive due to black men. Basically, black men are stealing white women and conservative white men are pissed off about it.
The logic of this is not actually wrong. As noted by any astute observer, women like bad boy alphas and black men, with their increased aggressiveness and physicality, often fit the caricature. The reality: The number of black men-white women pairs is so small that it warrants almost no consideration at all.
From this data represented in graphical form here, there are only 286,000 black men-white women marriages in the United States as of 2006. That represents only 0.5% of all marriages total. 286,000 white women is only about 0.3% of the total number of white women in the United States. When one considers that most of the white women in the BM-WW pairs are prole-types (with the token "Look how open-minded I am" Columbia sociology major on Teach for America), the loss of attractive potential white women is essentially zero.
In fact, according to the numbers, the number of Asian men-white women marriages is only one third less than the number of BM-WW marriages, showing the exaggeration of the BM-WW myth. And finally, just for fun: As of 2006, a whopping 41% of American-born Asian women marry a white man. This shouldn't surprise anyone who attended an elite college.
So much for the paranoia about black men stealing white women.
Note: Some argue that marriage rates don't tell the whole story. Well, most conservative types, including many HBDers, are looking for a stable relationship. Thus, marriage rates seem to be a good barometer of the preferences of white women for long-term relationships. Further, even if one wishes to look at only sexual relations, marriage rates are still a fine approximation. There may be some white women who eschew marriage and only fornicate with black men, thus excluding them from the potential sexual partners of white men. Yet, considering the minuscule rates presented above, I can't imagine this is at all substantial.
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It would be interesting to see the breakdown by age and state.
According to these obnoxious visitors, conservative racial opinions primarily stem from a fear that the sexual marketplace for white women is becoming more competitive due to black men.
I think they have a certain point in that HBDers talk about BM-WF far more than is warranted by the actual numbers.
Anyway, yes the worry over BM-WF is greatly overblown.
College brochures aside, there isn't much interaction between white and black students because they just don't have much common in terms of interests.
I normally see blacks hanging out only with other blacks.
Btw, here is a good breakdown from the 2000 census:
Marriage and cohabitation rates by race for men and women
The next table details the same thing for women. So among married white women, 96.83% have a white husband, 0.49% a black husband, 1.54% a Hispanic husband, etc.
Maybe white men don't want to marry white women who've had sexual liasons with black men (who tend not to marry). Perhaps they feel like they are getting leftovers (not to mention STDs).
I've read that 40% of the black men in Minnesota are married to white women. If true, what does that do to your post?
I've read that 40% of the black men in Minnesota are married to white women. If true, what does that do to your post?
There's nothing to discuss until you provide a source.
@ OneSTDV
I don't know if by talking about marriage rates you're really addressing 'Liberal Interloper's' point.
The idea is not that there is a real justifiable fear, but an unjustifiable one - I think Undiscovered Jew is sort of on the same page too. The degree of attention is disproportionate to the actual occurrence.
It would be more interesting to discuss why the fears exist in the presence of such confounding data.
"It would be more interesting to discuss why the fears exist in the presence of such confounding data."
But that's the point, there's no actual paranoia about it. Liberal trolls make it up, accuse conservatives of being paranoid about it when no one is. It's an overblown statistic to make black men look good.
I can't provide a source for the 40% figure -- I read that probably 5 years ago.
googling brought up this forum discussion which references a newspaper article. The figure they mention is 44%.
Oops:
http://www.whitewomenblackmen.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-4146.html
In rural white states like New Hampshire there arent many black women, and a lot of the black men are highly mobile singles who were transferred in by their employers, so there's going to be a lot of black men looking at whites even if they dont specifically prefer them. Minnesota is not as white as you might think though; only about 80% ... and most of the blacks are concentrated in Minneapolis, so perhaps it's the white women in Minnesota are more open to dating black men than the average and that's why we see so many interracial couples there.
Let's say the figure is 44%, it still probably doesn't matter.
There's only about 120,000 black men in Minnesota (http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/27000.html). How many of them are married? Let's say it's about average for the US and 50% of those black men are married. And let's say about 44% of them are married to white women. (Note the statistic in question says 44% of married black are married to white women, not 44% of the total black male population.)
That means there are about 26,000 white women in Minnesota married to black men. There are about 2.4 million white women in Minnesota.
So in Minnesota, with possibly the highest rate of married black men marrying white women, only about 1% of white women marry black men.
That means there are about 26,000 white women in Minnesota married to black men. There are about 2.4 million white women in Minnesota.
That 44% statistic is even less plausible when you realize that if 26,000 white women are married to black men in Minnesota then that means about ~10% of *all* BM-WF in the *entire* United States (286,000) are conentrated in Minnesota, which makes absolutely no sense.
Also remember that black men have much, much, lower rates of marriage than any other ethnic group - regardless of the ethnicity of their wives.
You came up with the 26,000 figure by assuming 50% of black men in Minnesota are married. That figure is more likely to be 5% since many of these "men" are babies and boys. Then you only have 2600 black men married to white women. This relates to TUJ's objection that 26,000 is too large a proportion of the national total of 286,000.
I chose the 50% figure because it would be an absolute upper bound as I don't have the actual data.
If the marriage rate for black men in Minnesota is much less, then my conclusion is that much more correct.
I'd be interested to know what the percentage of white wives is among black professional athletes and high status blacks. (Isn't Skip Gates ex-wife, Sharon Adams, white?)
I suspect (although I can't substantiate it) that it's at least 10%
Although, look at this...
http://yaaams.org/blog/?p=25
AOL sports recently had an article titled “Top Hottest 25 Sports Couples.” Seven out of the twenty-five athlete couples featured in this story were men of color. All seven of the black athletes featured were pictured with girl friends or wives. Not one of them was dating or married to a black female, giving this stereotypical lasting impression that all or a majority of black athletes are with white women. Which is not true! In the real world over 90% of black athletes date or are married to black women.
No idea where this latter number came from.
Although, I think this person might have the right answer to our misperceptions about black men, that the highest status black men do have white wives in a disproportionate number to the rest of the population, and these are the black me most likely to be in th public conscience as individuals.
Go to any dating site such as Adult Friend Finder and search for white women who are seeking black men. They are the absolute dregs of the female sex. They are nearly all 350 pound, tattoo covered, promiscuous, trailer trash. They are seeking black men because no respectable white man would touch them.
"these are the black me most likely to be in th public conscience as individuals."
Er, perhaps I mean to say..."these are the black men most likely to be in the public _consciousness_ as individuals."
D'oh!
"As noted by any astute observer, women like bad boy alphas and black men, with their increased aggressiveness and physicality, often fit the caricature."
I'm gonna have to start calling you HBD boys more often on this one.
Would you, please, quit saying "women like [whatever]" because it sounds like you mean *all* women, which obviously cannot possibly be true. There is variation in every group, as you all well know (natural selection wouldn't work otherwise, would it?), so to say "women like [whatever]" simply isn't logical.
The correct way to put it would be to say "MOST women" or "A MAJORITY OF women" or even "THE VAST MAJORITY OF women" like bad boy alpha types. Not just "WOMEN".
I know that there is at least one woman (me) that abhors the bad boy alpha type (nor am I attracted to black men), so your statement is clearly incorrect.
/rant
Platonic hugs & kisses,
Eileen (happily married to a so-called beta male, who is 100% alpha in my opinion!)
I wrote a little bit about the subject a while back; I think TUJ linked to it in the comments. Can't remember.
Anyway, in many cases - at least in big cities - women, being hypergamous, will select men of the highest status regardless of race. Men are hypergamous in terms of what they are sexually attracted to (men want to marry or fuck upwards in the looks department). So we have a couple of reasons why black men and white women might get together.
My point in all of that was to partially dispel the myth that white women go towards black men for many of the reasons we all hear about. Surely the penis size thing and the masculinity thing are explainors for some white women's choice, but simple sexual choice based upon hypergamy is a much better explainer of the overall trend.
I also wanted to poke a hole in that kind of argument, not because I want to disparage blacks, but because I want to get a true picture of the sexual dynamics at play, and because I hear too many white guys decrying white women's choice as if they are inherently inferior to black men. That's not the case at all.
My criticism would be that Marriage is not equal to dating and romance. Indeed if we are in a post-Marriage world, with greatly reduced marriage rates and in particular, delayed marriage, as I've blogged on (with White men age 34-40).
Certainly Black women are not generally open to dating/romancing White Men, nor are Black men approving. Moreover, Obesity hitting Black women harder, and skin color (if you buy Steve Sailer's "fair maiden/dark-handsome man" thesis) favors Black Men while hurting Black women and White Men (see Conan O'Brien's mocking his fair skin), the sex marketplace would be unequal.
Moreover, not all women are equal in value in the mate market. The ability of high profile Black Athletes to snap up prime White women does generate resentment, even if Joe Average White guy intellectually knows he has no chance of competing.
Look at Tiger Woods. While Elin Nordgren was out of his reach, the IHOP waitresses and various hostesses and such are not.
This is particularly true when uncertainty and changing sex roles put lots of churn and anxiety in the sex marketplace.
I wonder how many women more dominant, tesosterone-driven, and darker skinned Black guys can monopolize? There was the Ohio cop charged with murder who had about 3-4 White girlfriends at the same time. Don't forget it is not a one-to-one ratio -- a highly successful, masculine man with women can take a large number of women out of the market, including those normally in the range of Joe Average White Guy.
White people (Caucasians/ Europeans) are the most beautiful people in the world. White people are highly desired. The only time interracial dating comes up with non-white people is when one of their own is dating a white person. Non-white people never talk about dating other non-white people because they don't care. It is rarely talked about but many times it is physical, non-white people are attracted physically to white people. On top of physical beauty there is also social attraction. White people are seen as being more open-minded, caring, outgoing, varied, truthful, pleasant, courteous, funny and creative.
If there wasn't strong black loyalty born out of the black power movement interracial dating among black people would be far higher than it is. Black women rarely interracially date because men don't find them attractive physically and socially and because black women are far more loyal to their race.
On a side note; white women need to lose weight, groom properly and cut the attitude in order to keep the number of white men accepting east asian girlfriends low. A book came out a couple years ago about blondes and it said that Romans after they defeated the Germans imported German beauty standards throughout Rome. Roman women began dying their hair blonde among other things. The book stated how rare it was for a defeated group to be envied by the victors. When American and European soldiers came back from Asia after WW II, Vietnamese and Korean wars they did not bring back East Asian beauty standards instead they brought white beauty standards to Asia. Now you have Asians shaving their faces down to make them narrower, whitening their skin, widening their eyes, dying their hair etc. all in an effort to look white. In an ideal situation East Asian women can't compete with white women but they do all the little things to make sure they stay in the game for however long it takes to find a mate and that is why east asian women are able to get white men.
Has anyone ever hypothesized that East Asians have a lower variation in beauty than whites? It's kind of like women in math, not too many really ugly Asians, but not too many gorgeous Asians.
The whole thing about all Asians looking alike probably reflects this idea.
The book I alluded to was On Blondes by Joanna Pittman. Here's a excerpt:
"It is understandable that women might want to look more like rulers or conquerors, but the women of Rome wanted to look like enemies [Germans] who had been defeated and enslaved. Surely, only blondes have been envied and imitated even in defeat. Southern belles had no desire to resemble their African slaves, nor did English lasses imitate the features of the subject races of the British empire. Nor did American girls during the 1960s try to look Vietnamese. The Roman preference for blondes seems to have been more than a matter of fashion or a passing desire for the exotic."
Anonymous @ 12/31/2009 1:17 AM
There have been studies which showed people can tell personality traits by looking at people's faces. East Asians are known for their conformity so it is no wonder they look the same.
I have to disagree with you about East Asians mostly being average looking. I think most are ugly. The East Asians you see in the media had plastic surgery or are half white. Type in Japanese, Korean or Chinese celebrity plastic surgery and look at the before and after photos.
Sexual jealousy among men has little to do with marriage and more to with casual sex with multiple pretty women. If white men see blacks with young pretty white girls (which is often the case nowadays among gen-y, not so much in prev gen's), or white girls trying to act black, etc, this will spark sexual jealousy and rage among white men (conservative and non-conservative alike.)
So the increased interest among rightwingers re HBD theories on gender and race does have a great deal to do with racial sexual jealousy, and is not simply dispassionate scientific inquiry, but politics - all political ideologies attempt to use science to varying degrees to substantiate their beliefs. Theres nothing wrong with it if those advancing their HBD theories don't pretend to do so "for science" - but admit that it is political. Sexual jealousy is a valid reason as any to drive political movements, as sex is a core motivation, as is status, money, etc - which most politics revolves around.
From my own HBD perspective, the problem also with black men and non-black (white, asian, hispanic, indian, etc) women, and why from my own observation it tends to create so much resentment not just among whites but among most non-black males in general, is that black women are unattractive to non-black men (and even to many if not most black men - as evidenced by their preference for non black women) - not even for casual sex, leaving marriage out of the equation. This means that black men are "taking" women from other races, but not "giving" anything back, since their women are sexually repulsive to the other races. It is enough to create a mating market problem.
Marriage rates? Since when do black men marry the white women? Certainly a lot more than 0.3% of young white women are raising a biracial bastard, which essentially takes them off the market for white men.
And there's another point of view besides that of horny beta males - that of the parents. They're kind of stuck raising the black grandchild when the dad disappears.
Haven't you heard the expression "Once you go black we don't *want* you back?".
It isn't just marriage to a black that removes a white woman from the list of "available" women.
It's human nature to get wound up when men from some other group start marrying or impregnating women from your own group.
Quite possibly it's in our blood. Groups who did not object would have gotten fucked out of existence.
Much like what is happening to the white race right now.
@ coldequation and mug49:
As I said in the post, marriage rates might not tell the whole story. But the rates are so exceedingly small (about half of one percent), that the phenomenon is clearly inconsequential.
@ mug49: The phenomenon is clearly overblown, so why would HBDers have something so trivial as their main motivation?
For me it's all about societal stability, social relations, racial hypocrisy, etc. Honestly, I've never personally known a white girl who was even attracted to a black man, let alone consider him as a potential mate. Further, I've seen only a handful of BM-WF pairs in person in my entire life.
@OneSTDV
Stereotypes often hold much truth, and perception is reality. IOW, it has less to do with actual pairings and more to do with the perception that at least a strong minority of white women - as well as women of all other non-black races - disproportionately find black men sexually attractive. IOW, the fear non-black men hold (and have always held since way slavery days, etc, which drove many racist policies) was a valid fear - that black men are in fact sexy to women - especially young fertile women who are biologically addicted to high testosterone characteristics (dark skin, height, aggression, social dominance and "cool" behavior, sexual proficiency, muscularity, large penises) - and that blacks will wind up "taking" a disproportionate number of non-black women. And this problem is exacerbated by the fact that black women are unsexy to most men, including black men.
Beauty is not as objective between races but masculinity/femininity is. Blacks are a far more masculine high-testoserone race (for better and for worse) than all others, and that explains why while their women are unsexy to most, their men are sexy "forbidden" macho dick to many women esp young, immature, hormonal women.
Where I live in the NY area thuggish street black men are viewed upon as virtual celebrities by most non-black women of all backgrounds (american whites, ethnic whites, jews, latinas, indians, middle eastern, lower, middle, upper class, etc). The women chase them more than the other way around. I've discussed and confirmed this with many of my female friends, who will shamelessly admit that much of their desire comes down to raw sexuality - they find black men rebellious, athletic in bed, enjoy the taboo of fucking bad boys who scare their brothers and daddies. They also think white men are too prissy and perfectionistic about women's looks/bodies whereas black men are more accepting of "real women", and they just think that white (and asian) men are too dorky, beta - irrespective of political ideology btw, they seem to dislike right wing whites as much as left wing whites, for slightly different reasons however.
Women are nasty and horny - that's the reality that those in the PUA and MRA communities understand but I think that most guys - especially smart ones - just don't seem to get. Women of all races do not care about group solidatrity or civilization or intelligence - as long as they get to be with their violent alpha males - that's all that concerns them. IOW, it is women are the primitive beasts who think with their genitals - not men -and birth control and consequence free sex has allowed this behavior to reveal itself where before it was obscured.
@ mug49:
You keep claiming its so widespread (white female attraction to black men), but you provide absolutely no data to support that.
I admit in the post that it would seem to make sense (females like bad boy alphas and most blacks fit that), but the numbers simply don't back it up. The marriage rates might be a crude measurement, but they are a good barometer of interracial attraction and only one half of one percent of white women are married to a black man. If the attraction was as common as you keep claiming it is, then the number should be higher.
Note that the 286,000 black men in these BM-WF marriages account for only about 1.4% of black men total. Also, note that about 60% of black men are married, so that means only about 2.5% of black men willing to get married were able to find a white woman to marry. That doesn't bode well for the notion that white women are flocking towards black men.
Remember: Anecdotal evidence is garbage.
"In fact, according to the numbers, the number of Asian men-white women marriages is only one third less than the number of BM-WW marriages, showing the exaggeration of the BM-WW myth. And finally, just for fun: As of 2006, a whopping 41% of American-born Asian women marry a white man. This shouldn't surprise anyone who attended an elite college."
The percentage of Asian men born in the USA who marry outside their race is similar(one needs to look at Japanese statistics, who probably the bellweather for most other Asian ethnics) to that percentage.
However, marriage rates among the entire group is skewered by Asian-born Asians, who for cultural reasons or whatever are undesirable.
@ mug49:
I attend a "magnet" high school(not really a magnet but it has a curriculum that draws a lot of intelligent people), and for whatever reasons, the blacks who still dress(and often act) thuggish seem to never get any girls besides that of lower-class and intelligence girls.
However, the blacks who are more proper acting seem to out compete them in all respects. Based on anecdotal evidence(and that's what both of our arguments are from), I guess the intelligent girls go after proper guys.
@OneSTDV
Marriage rates, IMO, are only a good barometer of what is socially acceptable, not of sexual attraction or activity, and thus not relevant here. PUA theory holds that women view men through a lover/provider dichotomy, of guys they fuck and guys they have relationships with. Bad boys (blacks in this scenario) are guys that women fuck. Betas and nice guy providers are usually the guys women wind up in monogamous relationships and marriage with. So of course the marriage numbers would make it look as though women have little attraction for blacks or bad boys. Provider relationships (such as marriage) are designed to fool beta society about women's true desires.
Left-brained "numbers" thinking is not as relevant in analysis of sociosexual behavior, where right-brained thinking - perceptivity, intuition, social/emotional intelligence play a much larger role. People don't answer surveys truthfully, either intentionally or because they are unaware of their true motives. Most data on social phenomena tend to only reflect what people want others to know about them, not the truth.
This is why, imo, theories based upon observation, shared with others who have observed similar phenomena, as as good as any data when it comes to social and sexual behavior. This is how our brain works in this area, and why we especially develop and use stereotypes, and why stereotypes often hold much truth, and are not simply a "false construct" but a form of social intelligence.
I'm not saying that most non-black women are flocking to black men, but that non-black young women (esp amongst gen-y) find blacks sexy enough and have enough casual sex with blacks - for it to cause justifiable jealousy among non-black men.
Just look at youtube or myspace, and you will see the phenomenon of non-black girls "booty dancing" and stripping to black thug music, making themselves look like the ho's in rap music videos. These girls are trying to make themselves sexy for black men, towards black male tastes, etc. They mainly hook up with black men, many are impregnated and become baby mommas, and they openly discuss it on their pages. This social phenomena is real and only the socially unintelligent or sheltered would fail to see it.
@anon 8:21
Female intelligence does not drive male desire, youth and beauty does, and the men who can attract numerous pretty (dumb or smarth, trashy or classy) girls for casual sex are the men who are envied by other men.
"This social phenomena is real and only the socially unintelligent or sheltered would fail to see it."
You have this exactly backwards. It's the social retards (Whiskeys and Sodinis) who believe as you do.
I agree with Mug49 -
If we are talking about attraction - the marriage statistics are not a good indicator.
It is more likely the case that WW/BM pairings are actually disproportionally common for casual relationships, however drop off because those same WW either realise her black partner will not make a good long term mate, or, (perhaps mnore likely) those BM's are cad-like in behaviour and jump to younger partners instead of settling down.
It's like if you could somehow observe 'alpha' males as an identifiable data group. 'Alpha' meaning that they partner with a disproportionally high number of attractive women.
These alpha males would have a lower marriage rate than beta males, who are almost certainly to wind up with a single person for the rest of their life. That does not indicate more women actually find the beta more attractive than the alpha.
More anecdotal evidence.
Not one bit of data to support what you're saying.
Marriage rates are a decent proxy statistic. And considering they're so exceedingly small, there's no good reason to think this is at all a widespread phenomenon.
Neither OneSTDV or mug49 is exactly right. Anyone walking through NYC at night can see white girls, attractive ones, hooking up with black guys. It's not a huge amount but it is noticeable and the reverse is almost never seen.
I have been seeing more and more white girls hanging out with Asian guys too. I don't know if these are friendships or anything more, so I can't say that Asian guys are banging more white women than before.
Marriage statistics cannot describe all of this. You have to be out in NYC at night to understand the situation, which is that white women can afford to be bitchy and superficial because diversity creates a higher value for their services. Only the chunky ones have a heart.
I however don't think mug is correct and his characterization of black thugs as celebrities wanted by all non-black women is an exaggeration. Maybe among the lower class, that's it. I go to law school and while the black guys here seem to do ok, the girls are certainly not fucking street thuhgs or even associating with them.
I think 'mug49' has a crush on negro males himself!
What a lot of you morons don't understand in all this is that black males have artificially-inflated status here in america, which is virtually absent in the rest of the world (ok, with the possible exceptions of some northern Euro countries).
In other words, the darker the complexion, the lower the status. Darker blacks in Brazil, or any other Latin American country, for example, ARE EMPHATICALLY NOT looked at as some kind of "alpha" males ... not in the least.
You poor wasps and other norte americanos have been guilt-tripped and brainwashed in to believing fairy tales regarding 'wise' negroes, like a 21st century 'uncle remus' myth, writ large -
http://blog.spout.com/2009/01/05/an-idiots-guide-to-the-magical-negro/
Most of the rest of the world (including Africa) looks down on America for it's disgustingly servile supplication to savage, atavistic, low IQ blacks.
Whiskey,
Take a look at TUJ's link to a post I did not only on interracial marriage rates but also interracial cohabitation rates. Interracial cohabitation rates are higher than interracial marriage rates are, but they're still of marginal consequence. 1 in 200 married white women have a black husband. 1 in 32 white women who are cohabitating with a man are doing so with a black man.
White skin on a male is like large eyes or full lips or eye skin contrast. It is a feminine trait, but like all feminine traits on men, if it balances with strong and masculine traits correctly (rather than in an unwholesome and odd way) then it can make a male more attractive. See the vampiric aesthetic for an exaggerated example. White skinned males can get away with harder bone structures and smaller lips and eyes than darker men, who would look excessively masculine if this were the case.
Of course, it is not clear whether light skin relative to your group or light skin overall actually matters, as an indicator. If a Black woman, for example, has seen many Chinese men and from that sample know what skin tone a "masculine" Chinese man has, it may not matter that his skin tone is not as dark as hers or of masculine men from his group.
"For me it's all about societal stability, social relations, racial hypocrisy, etc. Honestly, I've never personally known a white girl who was even attracted to a black man, let alone consider him as a potential mate. Further, I've seen only a handful of BM-WF pairs in person in my entire life.
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Where the heck do you live -- Alaska?
White skin on a male is like large eyes or full lips or eye skin contrast. It is a feminine trait..
There are some very peculiar people commenting on the HBD sites. I'm thinking of keeping a scrapbook of the some of the wackier things they say, and this will be a worthy entry.
I think these debates usually come down to whether or not one accepts Game/PUA theories or not. For those of us in the Game/PUA camp the idea that monogamous relationships (marriage, cohabitation, steady girlfriend/boyfriend, etc) are a barometer of sexual attraction is ridiculous. Women mostly don't have monogamous relationships with the guys they choose to fuck - which is the best barometer of raw sexual attraction.
Check this clip out:
White Girls Go crazy 4 Gucci Mane
Also, I disagree with the guy in the clip that it has to do with hip-hop as much as I think it does with women's lust for bad boys. For HBD reasons there are disproportionate number of blacks with those traits, and hip-hop reflects this. Women also lust after lower-class white guys with similar bad boy traits, rocker and heavy metal types, for example. It's just more obvious when it crosses racial lines, and has done so more easily in the younger generations due to a relaxation of interracial taboos and women's sexual empowerment which encourages them to follow their pink matter instead of their grey matter. Generation-Y aged girls/young women disproportionately do chase after black thugs - I stand by that and don't believe it is an exaggeration - if you see what really goes on out there when their family and friends are not watching them. That is not paranoia - it is reality.
"Generation-Y aged girls/young women disproportionately do chase after black thugs - I stand by that and don't believe it is an exaggeration - if you see what really goes on out there when their family and friends are not watching them. That is not paranoia - it is reality."
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Primarily because these so-called 'Gen-Yrs' girls (and let us never forget, most women are status-obsessed and are very, er, 'sensitive' to 'public opinion') are encouraged to by the anti-White 'pop-culture' in this sick society, which wants to genocide-thru-miscegenation Euro-Americans.
As I said before, in Latin America and other parts of the world where there are a lot of Blacks (including the Middle East and Africa), low-class negroes and their 'culture' are ABSOLUTELY DESPISED .. in no way, shape or form are black 'thugs' 'pursued'
'chased after', or respected in any way by any (even remotely) respectable female member of society -- which includes many good Black women.
Again, to reiterate, blacks here in 'US and A' have *artificially-inflated* status,
http://blog.spout.com/2009/01/05/an-idiots-guide-to-the-magical-negro/
...started and kept alive by Pee Cee cowardice on the part of White boys, where, from an early age, are taught to, er, 'worship' imbecilic, low-class animals (of course, not always or exclusively black).
Hence, many of your borderline White girls, taking cues from their 'men' (whom many lose and lack respect for, go 'slummin') and subsequently ruin their future dating and mating prospects -- and sometimes, their very lives.
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http://www.tylerpaper.com/article/20080107/NEWS01/36812992
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http://www.sptimes.com/2007/01/30/news_pf/Pasco/A_moment_of_fun_can_r.shtml
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/manchester/8173263.stm
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/8170020.stm
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/manchester/8148544.stm
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About time you 'Anglo' White dudes woke up to this 'realidad' (reality).
Maybe then you will get some 'respect', and subsequently, more women *may* find you more attractive, hence you wouldn't have to worry about wasting money on bullshit 'courses' on "how to be a "man".
Ah, America.
Corrected links to above -
http://tiny.cc/TSHBw
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Miscegenation is only a problem in leftist coastal urban areas in the USA, and in Texas with Mestizo female and White male relationships.
If you want to avoid miscegenation, avoid the leftist urban sewers.
There are some very peculiar people commenting on the HBD sites. I'm thinking of keeping a scrapbook of the some of the wackier things they say, and this will be a worthy entry.
I really should have written "Light relative to their group" rather than "White" (which is generally either an ethnic, sporadic or pathological trait), but hey.
It's a fact that skin is sexually dimorphic and that women are the fairer sex, and thus that lighter skin is, to some degree, conceptualizable as a feminine trait (unless you object to things like full lips being considered a feminine trait on the basis that full lips are more frequent in women). Like all "feminine" traits in males, if it is balanced with other masculine features then it will give the impression that a man is more sensitive and has a more feminine personality.
There is a sweet spot for how feminine women like their males (usually a combination of feminine soft tissues, such as skin or large eyes, and skeletal masculinzation) and with the right hard tissues and balance in the other soft tissues, light skin is not an insuperable barrier to helping males reach it, but can be a benefit.
Do not fret: race-mixing amongst Whites isn't that big of a big deal. Go ahead and let the least ethnocentric Whites breed out, that only makes the White gene pool stronger and more ethnocentric in the long-term.
Right now about the only White women (and men) who are race-mixing are defective in some way, especially the ones who mix with Blacks; as I said above, only the weakest and least ethnocentric Whites are race-mixing, so go ahead and let them...we don't want their weak genes anyhow.
Think of it as "gold in the furnace" - Whites being made stronger in this period of tribulation in the fire.
I find this blog very interesting.
reading the post and the replies, I wondered. I'm italian and live in Italy.
The number of black men dating/marrying white women in US is low, like the number of white women dating/marrying black men.
But, if 1% of the white woman marry a black man this imply that 5% of the black man marry a white woman.
Wikipedia confirm this:
In 2007, 4.6% of all married Blacks in the United States were wed to a White partner, and 0.4% of all Whites were married to a Black partner.
Now, if 1/20 of the black marry a white this could not appear a problem at a first glance.
But it is an aggregate number.
Now, I have not the data but I could suppose that the mating is not random, but follow some rule.
My supposition is that the higher status blacks (male or female) marry out of their race group disproportionately because they find better mates in the white pool.
This is, probably, the reason of the hostility to mixed-race dating and marrying within the blacks group. They are left with the less desirable leftover.
In the reverse, how many high status black women are married or dating whites? Taking apart singers and rappers, as this is deleterious to their business.
Other questions are:
How many out of the wedlock babies are born from black women that are sired by white men?
What proportion of them is compared to the total babies born by black women?
I suppose these numbers could shed a better light on the matter.
Googling around I found this:
Brewing a Better Stew: Black Chicks Want White Dicks
Some excerpts:
My friend was born in Nigeria and she has two Masters degrees in business and design. She self-identifies as a "Beautiful Black Nigerian Princess" when pressed. Her father is a successful New York insurance salesman. Her mother sells real estate.
She spoke instead, "Dark Black women like me -- so dark we're purple! -- need White dick. It isn't a sex thing. It's a reproduction thing. It's a basic need. It's a genetic demand, if you will."
She continued on, "No, this isn't racism. This is fact. The thing about White girls "never going back after they taste Black" is just about sex and it's tacky. Crass, even. It disgusts me. I'm talking about long-term reproduction here. A higher leaning. I'm talking about the propagation of future generations and there aren't a lot of American-born Black women who are brave enough to discuss this out loud. I'm Nigerian and I'll discuss this with anyone who has an open heart all day long because you convince people with your mind and not your skin color."
You must be very sheltered from what is happening in many poorer areas of the country. There are a huge number of white women who have black boyfriends and "baby daddies." This doesn't show up as "interracial marriage," but it does show up in the recent statistic that about 10% of all children born to white women now have non-white fathers(I can't find the reference right now). If you live in a run down rust belt city, you see white women with mulato children all the time. There are certain depressed factory towns where a large percentage of the young white women have been impregnated by black men who then leave.
There is even a book, "Growing Up Fast," about one such town, Pittsfield, MA that talks about the extremely high rate of white teenage mothers with black "baby daddies." The book's cover shows a young white girl with two mulato children. There are many other such towns in the Hudson Valley region alone.
Here is a quote from the book:
"We've noticed a lot of interracial birth among young white female from a lower socio-economic background and young black males, many of whom are drug dealers from out of the area."
According to the book, Pittsfield is only 3.5% black, but a large enough % of the children of white teen mothers are half-black to elicit a great deal of attention.
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To: Anonymous.
First off, white people are not the most beautiful people on Earth. That is reserved for the Black race. The Black race has the most beautiful people on Earth. As for interracial marriage, I as a black person is not for it. I believe many black Americans
have been brainwashed into it.
We as a people must maintain the blackness of out race.We must stop this interracial experiment now.!
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