Saturday, June 27, 2009

HBD, Social Engineering, and Does this Contradict Individualism?

Update: Some of the comments have suggested implementing voluntary or incentive-laden programs to dissuade people from having children. For some reason, people still find this inhuman. Apparently, allowing one to have control over his own body is inhuman!

The HBD discussion eventually veers into implications for public policy. The obvious, and most commonly mentioned, topics include the futility of diversity programs and lifting the ban on taboo avenues of research. While these positions are sometimes voiced in mainstream discourse, other more extreme policies exist almost entirely amongst the HBD-osphere. These policies vary from benign measures such as fixed academic tracking to more intrusive endeavors like forced sterilization. These potential initiatives, evoking images of totalitarian and fascist government regimes have been relegated to science fiction and fantasy movies. The typifying example is Gattaca, a 1990's movie tacitly supporting The Blank Slate in a society where jobs are predetermined by genetically engineered traits.

Because acceptance of HBD represents a social sin of the highest order, almost all adherents are unafraid to offer opinions free of patronization or euphemisms. As a result, HBDers regard empathy as generally subordinate to efficiency and fairness in judging potential political innovations. People are considered inherently valuable, but in the context of a program, they're considered capital or economic quantities rather than unique personalities.

So what are these programs? I'm mainly thinking of sterilization (distinguishing between forced and voluntary), widespread IQ testing, adopting Chinese style academic tracking and testing, , very limited immigration, and placing people into value groups based on economic worth (doctor worth more than janitor). That's a sparse list. Please add more in the comments.

I'll focus on sterilization because it's the most polemical, and probably most effective, suggestion. Most people consider sterilization to be cruel and inhuman. Of course, I disagree. Provided that genetics, especially as the relevant population increases, predicts future behavior, it's justifiable that certain individuals will undoubtedly have children who do nothing to support society. In fact, many of these individuals will be a destructive and parasitic force. Sterilization programs would identify incubators of potential anti-social persons and stop the problem before it begins. Ostensibly, individuals with low-IQ and violent criminals would be the prime targets.

But with all these programs, isn't the government becoming an intervening force bordering on an authoritarian system? Don't we want to limit the reach of government? Yes, but sometimes it's necessary that government protect its productive constituency, such as with police officers and the military. It's also necessary that government spends its scarce resources efficiently. Thus, it must classify and sort people according to their ability and their potential, including that of their future children. In doing so, the government commits a sin against individualism: grouping individuals into faceless collectives.

This seems to contradict a widely held premise within the HBD community: an individual, through his innate ability AND work ethic, should have the freedom to pursue success and accomplish it based solely on his own merit. Yet, by not allowing Laquisha and Jerome to have children, aren't we unfairly assuming their children will be of similar IQ and act like those within that IQ range? OK, yes we are and this does contradict treating everyone as an individual.

But government deals with societies and concessions to that society must be made. Individuals vary and in the process of dispassionately grouping individuals, we do a disservice to a scant few. However, with such large sample sizes, variation will be nonexistent and our society will undoubtedly prosper from these initiatives. Thus, the objective of government is successful: assuring progress and stability of society. I'll appeal to utilitarianism. I've heard others in the HBD-osphere agree that utilitarianism should guide most political decisions as maximizing utility is the best approach for large scale societies. Occasionally, we'll miss out on undiscovered genius, but society's well-being must be the preeminent factor in political decision making.

So, while these programs do mirror other social engineering ventures, they're justified by countless studies linking objective test scores and real-world achievement. The HBDer can simultaneously support the ideals of freedom and individualism, while also noting the existence of group characteristics and subsequently applying previous experimental conclusions in avoiding a dsygenic society.

8 comments:

not too late said...

India used incentives to get people sterilized. Iran also pushes sterilization. I think Iran has the highest rate of male sterilization.

Incentives are pretty humane ways to get people to elect sterilization. If someone is a high school dropout he/she could be offered say a $1000 a year for life to get the procedure. Same for prisoners who have conjugal visits or are about to be released. It is cheaper than the welfare they would receive if they had kids. Plenty of people would do it.
It is very cost effective compared to incarceration or welfare for their offspring. It is also cost effective because most of the poor get free or subsidized birth control from the gov't. The abortion rate among blacks is about 50% of all pregnancies, so there is unmet need for better family planning. The program could even be sold as reducing abortions, so Obama could "find common ground" with the anti abortion folk. The program could be tastefully marketed in welfare offices. You know, make them think it is their own idea. That is the forte of marketing people. Assistance for the struggling people, etc.

The Undiscovered Jew said...

Eugenics can come in a wide variety of forms beyond simply sterilization.

The primary causes for the underclass' breeding habits are

1) low future time orientation

2) welfare incentives to reproduce

Obviously, we should remove all welfare incentives for poor women to have children at taxpayer expense.

But even if we removed financial incentives to reproduce, we still have to deal with low future time orientation among the underclass.

Plenty of dirt poor third world countries have high birthrates despite the fact their women get few, if any, financial benefits from having kids.

Underclass women are just more likely to make bad decisions and they will have too many kids even with no welfare incentives.

Eugenics programs ultimately try and solve the future time orientation problem.

In the case of sterilization, the problem of low future time orientation is solved by simply removing the woman or man's ability to reproduce. Removing the ability to have kids makes low future time orientation irrelevant because no matter how many bad decisions they make, they cannot have kids.

But there are other ways to attack the low future time orientation problem that may be more politically palitable.

We could target the underclass' low future time orientation by financially incentivizing good reproductive behavior through financial measures.

For example, there is a new program that pays teenagers in North Carolina not to get pregnant that does not involve sterilization:

Program Pays Girls $1 Per Day To Not Get Pregnant

By using the carrot of future financial rewards, we can improve NAM future time orientation (behaviors such as future time orientation are much easier to influence than any measure of intelligence).

We could expand upon this North Carolina program by threatening to garnish the welfare benefits of underclass women if they have children out of wedlock.

Or, we could promise a large cash bonus to underclass women at the end of every, say, 5 years if they refrain from having children out of wedlock during this time period.

None of this involves sterilization, but it does involve giving incentives to NAM women to behave better.

mike said...

We already have widespread, widely supported programs to sterilize cats and dogs. Clearly people have accepted that what may seem inhumane on an individual level can be the only humane option in the long term. I'm not saying that people will easily accept the leap from cats to humans, but it shows that the awareness is there.

"But with all these programs, isn't the government becoming an intervening force bordering on an authoritarian system?"

The way I see it, government intervention is creating this problem to begin with. Government largess is what's enabling the fecundity of the parasite class. If the government is feeding, clothing, and housing you, it should be allowed to determine whether or not you reproduce.

not too late said...

Forcing people will backfire. Better to let the marketing people have a crack at it. They sold them rap music, bling, etc. Then they think it is their own idea. Let them think they are getting back at the "Man". It doesn't have to make sense. They aren't logical. Strike the right emotion and it will be an instant hit.

Audacious Epigone said...

TUJ,

The high time preference of the underclass is easily (in terms of procedural--not political--execution) parlayed into cash for sterilization (federal or, more realistically, state governments could essentially do the same thing by making welfare benefits contingent upon contraception of some sort). This is what my favorite charity, Project Prevention, does with drug abusing women. Of course all the usual suspects hate Barbara Harris for what her operation does, but it is a voluntary exchange that benefits all parties involved. That's a pretty easy sell among the underclass--it's against the SWPLs that the battle must be joined.

The Undiscovered Jew said...

AE,

I was trying to think of a eugenic policy that would be more politically acceptable to wider segments of society that falls short of actual sterilization.

Of course, sterilization would make the underclass' low future time orientation a non-issue because they could not have children regardless of how badly they behave.

I will also support overt welfare for sterilization programs if they ever become popular enough.

My point was simply to demonstrate that there are different ways to accomplish eugenic goals if sterilization is not politically feasible.

sabril said...

I don't think sterilization is necessary to get underclass fertility below 2.0.

All you need to do is (1) make abortions free and easy to get; (2) make it unpleasant to collect welfare; and (3) make it pleasant to be childless.

For example, you could force welfare mommas to attend really boring "parenting classes" every friday and saturday night.

silly girl said...

Wow,

AE, I read a letter from an addict at the site for Project Prevention you linked. It gets right down to the naked truth. The human pain and untold $ spent on something preventable.

Thanks for sharing.